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Posted by: MuslimMusician May 13 2006, 05:26 PM

I rather enjoy myself a good rebroadcast of my personal favourite team (New Zealand's All Blacks, thank you very much) crushing their opponents into a hopeless oblivion. Anyone else got a favourite team? (I'll admit I favour the boys in blue [India] for cricket, but India got nothing on the All Blacks...

Salaam alaikum. guitar.gif

Posted by: admin May 14 2006, 04:50 PM

Actually, i don't know much about Rugby. I watched it quite a few times when i go on vacation to bangladesh. I loved watching it though. It was awesome. I think i was watching an international game between Australia and New Zealand.

Posted by: MuslimMusician May 18 2006, 05:23 PM

Dude, the Aussie and NZ, good games, but no contest. All-Blacks forever!

Posted by: Sapahi Jun 30 2007, 09:37 AM

I enjoyed playing rugby alot! Our school kit was one of the best aswell (black and yellow) like the style you see on the joker (cards). My knickname became 'polar bear' because i used to wear a thick white/grey jumper and turn football matches into rugby matches hahahaha! The chances are, if your bruised and sore afterwards you had a good game!

Posted by: Rex Jun 30 2007, 11:46 AM

Think I saw a match between I dunno, Germany and Lichtenstein or somethin. I dunno, but it was funny, cause both teams absolutely sucked! There were a few good hits though.

Posted by: Sapahi Jun 30 2007, 12:08 PM

Rugby outclasses american football infinate times.


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Youd never find me playing american puffball!

Posted by: Rex Jul 1 2007, 03:05 AM

That's cause you're too chicken too try. Until you've played it, you wouldn't understand. Rugby is a contact sport. Football is a war. There is strategy, there are COLLISIONS, not just contact, or impact. COLLISIONS. Every man hits, and everyman has a job to do. They must remember and execute hundreds of plays, while making on the fly adjustments according to variables in the opposing teams offense or defensive line. Imagine chess, only the pieces are uber strong, uber intelligent, and can work entirely off of heart/will alone. Rugby is about flow. Football is about territory. Rugby is about getting the try. Football is NOT about the touchdown. It is to win, but the ultimate goal is to be able to control all parts of the field at all times, control the clock, and be able to get into your opponents mind. In other words, the goal is complete and utter DOMINATION. Not just to win, not to have fun, but to Dominate. Every game is to be treated as a life or death matter. Football players are not just players on gameday. No, we are soldiers, and we are brothers. We are comrades, under the command of our general, our Head Coach. The enemy is not just football team. They are an army, as are we. We must do whatever it takes to pound the poor souls into the ground and dominate field. We want to be able to crush them. If we don't want them to score, then they damn sure aren't gonna be scorin anytime soon. In fact, we won't let them see a gain of more than 2 yards if we can help it. 5 yards gain for them, is like murder for us. Football is a Battle, Rugby is a Game.


Nuff Said.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 1 2007, 06:29 AM

American football:

Wear tights like ballet girls

Wear 1980 womans fashion shoulder pads

Caged up like a scared animal

Weaklings that rely on padding

Rugby:

Full aggressive contact man to man

Not so gay uniform

Tough people who train alot

More of a contest than a game

More likely to get hurt

Bigger pitches and international

Conclusion:

Hmmm american football has nothing on rugby!
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Posted by: Rex Jul 1 2007, 11:21 AM

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American football:
Wear Armor, used both as a weapon and protection

Caged up like a beast about to bust the **** out and kill anything that moves the moment the game starts.

Strong *** 200-365 pound men who can run under 10 seconds or less in the 100 yard dash in full gear.

Players whose entire lives revolves around training and lifting weigts and sprinting. In fact, during the off season, these guys almost never leave the practice field or weight room. They will stay there for upwards of 14 hours, go home sleep, and wake up before the sun rises to go workout again.

Everyman Hits on Every Play, Blocking is legal and part of the game (and the only way to have a great offense)

Involves strategy and cunning

Football is more of a War and a Way of LIfe than a game.

More likely to break a leg, arm, fracture your skull, break a rib, rupture your spleen (Chris Simms of the Tamba Bay Buccaneers did that last season), rip an imortant tendon, get a concussion, etc.

Hell, look at what happened to Joe Theisman:

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or anyone else for that matter:

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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/241384/american_football_injury/

http://www.jokeroo.com/funnypictures/badfootballinjury.html




Field is measured off and marked in increments of 5 yards, which creates a game of territory. In rugby you run as far as you can until you're about to get tackled then you lateral it backwards to a teammate. In football, you fight tooth and nail just to get 3 yards.


Rugby:

Full aggressive contact man to man

Not so gay uniform... except for the **** short-shorts that they wear

Tough people who train alot
But not as much as football players.



More of a contest than a game

More likely to get hurt... If hurt means complaing cause you got cleated on the fingers and back a few times. oooohhhh boo hoo. I've got steel cleats to the teeth through my helmet and had a 300 pound man fall stomp on my back and hands and legs in Football.



Bigger pitches and international

Conclusion:

American Football Owns Rugby, Because Rugby Players Have No Clue What I Have to Go Through Every Day in My LIfe To Play the SPORT OF CHAMPIONS, American Football. Everyday is a commitment to myself, my teammates, my school, my coaches, and my parents. During the off season we work our asses off just to be in shape for the next season. Season starts, and every game is a fight to break enemy ranks, to run for their city (endzone) and to conquer the endzone, the field, and the enemy. When we beat them we want to see the shame in their eyes and their hearts, and we want them to know that we have taken their house. What was theirs, now is ours. We are the champions, we are powerful, and we will not be defeated.

In other words, rugby's fun and all, but it's a GAME. Football is not just a game. It is a way of life that affects how I live everyday. We are taught discipline, we are taught how to be men, and we are taught how to be mature individuals. We are taught to do whatever it takes to get the job done, and to continue fighting even after there is no hope of success and victory.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 1 2007, 11:55 AM

Rugby is not just a game, its a complete way of life! American puffball is so boring i seriously cant stand even watching any clips! There are so many nations playing rugby which creates extra competition, american football is a national sport and is as boring as brown paper bag. No wait its more fun watching the brown paper bag LoL!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rex Jul 1 2007, 12:08 PM

You don't like the clips because you don't understand the game. You are looking at it from the perspective of rugby and soccer. When you grow up around a game, you know it inside out. YOu know rugby, I know Football. if you played it, I guarantee you wouldn't call it puff ball.

What's wrong with having a national sport anyway? It's part of our identity. Also, in case you didn't know, American Football is very big in Japan, Germany, Russia, and the Netherlands, among other places. It is only a matter of time before our football also becomes an international sport. Then maybe you will understand the point. You don't PLAY football, you FIGHT football. THe only reason pads were ever instituted was because in the early 1900's, there were many deaths, so many that the president called for protection and reform in Football or it would be forever banned.

Just read this:


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The reform of American football

In the second half of the Harvard-Yale game of 1892, Harvard introduced the flying wedge — an interlocking offensive formation play devised by chess master Lorin F. Deland — which resulted in so many injuries to Yale players that it was outlawed the following season. In 1894, newspapers reported seven players carried off "in dying condition" in the Harvard-Yale game, and the two schools broke off all official contact including athletic competition for two years.

By 1900, American football had become infamous for serious injuries, as well as the deaths of a significant number of players. Interlocking formations and the practice of teammates physically dragging ball-carrying players forward had made the game extremely dangerous. Despite the introduction of some restrictions, 18 players were killed in 1905.

The death rate had resulted in national controversy and football was banned by a number of colleges. Although U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt reportedly liked the game, he informed the universities that it must be made safer. The President reportedly threatened that, if it were not made safer, he would campaign to outlaw the game.

Consequently, a series of meetings was held by 19 colleges in 1905-06. The meetings led to many restrictions on tackling and two more innovations: the first was the addition of a neutral zone between the scrimmage lines, with a requirement that at least six players from each team be positioned on them. The second was legalisation of the forward pass, a major deviation from the game's forebear of rugby. As an alternative means of opening out the play, Walter Camp had wanted to widen the field, but representatives from Harvard pointed to recently constructed Harvard Stadium, which could not be widened.

The meetings also led to formation of the Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States on March 31, 1906 (the foreunner of the National Collegiate Athletic Association, or NCAA).

The changes did not immediately have the desired effect, and 33 football players were killed during 1908 alone. As a result, in 1910, interlocking formations were finally outlawed. The number of deaths and injuries gradually declined.

In 1912, football fields were reduced in width by 35 yards, the value of a touchdown increased to six points, and a fourth down was added, before possession would switch. The game had gained the main attributes of its modern form. One of the early professional teams, the Racine (Chicago) Cardinals, who began playing as early as 1898 as the Morgan Athletic Club and became fully professional by 1913, are the oldest consecutively-operated professional football club in the United States.

After 1912

In the early years of the 20th century, college football was the predominant form of American football. Innovations in strategy and style of play originated in college football and spread to the pro game gradually. It was not until much later that professional leagues surpassed the university football competitions in standing and influence.

Jim Thorpe, a two-time gold medal winner in the 1912 Stockholm Olympics and former college football star, began playing pro football in 1913, giving the pro sport its first legitimate star. In the 1910s, the most influential professional league was the Ohio League, dominated by the rivalry between the Massillon Tigers and Canton Bulldogs. Thorpe was eventually signed to play for Canton. In 1919, Curly Lambeau organized the Green Bay (Meat) Packers as a full-fledged professional team, funded by the Indian Packing Company. The Packers are the longest lasting professional football franchise in the same location in history.

Establishment of the NFL, 1920-45
1932 — the first ever NFL playoff game, played indoors at Chicago Stadium. The final result was Chicago Bears 9, Portsmouth Spartans 0.
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1932 — the first ever NFL playoff game, played indoors at Chicago Stadium. The final result was Chicago Bears 9, Portsmouth Spartans 0.

While attention in most areas was still paid to football at elite colleges, the professional game spread widely in the Midwest. In 1920, the first pro league, the American Professional Football Association, was founded, in a meeting at a Hupmobile car dealership in Canton, Ohio. The legendary Olympian and all-round athlete Jim Thorpe was elected president. The initial group of 11 teams, of which all but one were located in the Midwest, was originally less a league than an agreement not to rob other teams' players. In the early years, APFA members continued to play non-APFA teams. By the start of the 1920 season, the list of teams had grown to 14. They were:

* Akron Pros
* Buffalo All-Americans
* Canton Bulldogs
* Chicago Cardinals
* Chicago Tigers
* Cleveland Tigers
* Columbus Panhandles
* Dayton Triangles
* Decatur Staleys
* Detroit Heralds
* Hammond Pros
* Muncie Flyers
* Rochester Jeffersons
* Rock Island Independents


In 1921, the APFA began releasing official standings, and the following year, the group changed its name to the National Football League (NFL). However, the NFL was hardly a major league in the 1920s. Teams entered and left the league frequently. Franchises included the Oorang Indians, an all-Native American outfit that also put on a performing dog show.

Former college stars like Red Grange and Benny Friedman increasingly joined professional teams, and the pro game slowly began to increase in popularity. By 1934, all of the small-town teams, with the exception of the Green Bay Packers, had moved to or been replaced by big cities.

In the 1932 season, the Chicago Bears and the Portsmouth Spartans tied with the best regular-season records. To determine the champion, the league voted to hold their first playoff game. Because of very cold weather, the game was held indoors at Chicago Stadium, which forced some temporary rule changes. Chicago won, 9-0. The playoff proved so popular that the league reorganized into two divisions for the 1933 season, with the winners advancing to a scheduled championship game. A number of new rule changes were also instituted: the goal posts were moved forward to the goal line, every play started from between the hash marks, and forward passes could originate from anywhere behind the line of scrimmage (instead of the previous five yards behind).

The NFL becomes dominant within football, 1945-59

By the end of World War II, in 1945, pro football had begun to rival the college game for fans' attention. The spread of the T formation led to a faster-paced, higher-scoring game that attracted record numbers of fans. In 1945, the Cleveland Rams moved to Los Angeles, becoming the first big-league sports franchise on the West Coast. In 1950, the NFL accepted three teams from the defunct All-America Football Conference, expanding to 13 clubs.

In the 1950s, pro football finally earned its place as a major sport. The NFL embraced television, giving Americans nationwide a chance to follow stars like Bobby Layne, Paul Hornung and Johnny Unitas. The 1958 NFL championship in New York — considered by many to be the most-important game in the rise of the NFL — drew record TV viewership and made national celebrities out of Unitas and his Baltimore Colts teammates.

Football achieves supremacy, 1960-90

The rise of pro football was so fast that by the mid-60s, it had surpassed baseball as Americans' favorite spectator sport in some surveys. As more people wanted to cash in on this surge of popularity than the NFL could accommodate, a rival league, the American Football League, was founded in 1960. The costly war for players which ensued, between the NFL and AFL, almost derailed the sport's ascent. In 1966, the leagues agreed to merge, with effect from the 1970 season. The 10 AFL teams joined three existing NFL teams to form the NFL's American Football Conference. The remaining 13 NFL teams became the National Football Conference.

In the 1970s and 80s, the NFL solidified its dominance as America's top spectator sport and its important role in American culture. The Super Bowl became an unofficial national holiday and the top-rated TV program most years. Monday Night Football, which first aired in 1970 brought in high ratings by mixing sports and entertainment. Rules changes in the late 70s ensured a fast-paced game with lots of passing to attract the casual fan.

The founding of the United States Football League in the early 80s was the biggest challenge to the NFL in the post-merger era. The USFL was a well-financed competitor with big-name players and a national television contract. However, the USFL failed to make money and folded after three years.

College football in the 21st century

College football remains extremely popular throughout the U.S. This is in part because professional teams are found only in major cities (with the exception of Green Bay) and because of long standing NFL rules requiring players to be at least three years out of high school before joining the NFL. The college form of the game is especially popular in parts of the country not in close proximity to such cities, for example in Oklahoma, Alabama and Iowa.[citation needed]However, the absence of a pro franchise does not necessarily indicate where the college game is most successful. For example, in Ohio, Texas and Florida — all states that have more than one NFL franchise — there are universities that also rank in the upper financial echelons of college football. This is also true in Louisiana, where the LSU Tigers, an extremely popular college team from Baton Rouge, play in fairly close proximity to the New Orleans Saints.

There is also no strong rivalry between the NFL and the NCAA, since there is enough TV and radio airtime for both. College football is dominant on Saturday, the NFL on Sundays.

Over the past quarter century, the University of Miami has had the most successful Division I collegiate football program, winning five national championships during this period; the University of Nebraska–Lincoln is the second most successful, with three national championships during this period. The University of Southern California, having been awarded the AP national championship and contending for the last two BCS championships, has been arguably the most prominent college football program in the 21st century.

American football spreads to other countries

Amateur leagues

The Japan American Football Association was founded in 1934 with three collegiate teams: Rikkyo, Meiji and Waseda.[19] By 1937, an allstar game involving teams representing eastern and western Japan, attracted over 25,000 spectators.

American football became popular in various countries after World War II, especially those in which there were large numbers of U.S. military personnel, who often formed a substantial proportion of the players and spectators.

In Japan, high school teams also began to appear. In the 1970s, the movement of players between Japan and the U.S. increased dramatically, along with greater exposure on Japanese television.

The first amateur clubs in Europe were formed in West Germany in the 1970s. The German Football League's first German Bowl was played in 1979, with Frankfurt winning. In Europe the use of experienced players from the USA or Canada, who had to wear a large "A" on their helmets, brought quick success, but hampered the development of local talent. No more than two or three "A" players were allowed on the field, and in countries like Finland, teams also had to provide a local quarterback. This helped the Finnish American Football Association win the European championships in the 1980s, over Great Britain and Germany, where US players often ran the offense in club games, but were not available for the national teams. However they could play for clubs that competed for the Euro Bowl. (See also: List of leagues of American football).

American Pro football outside the U.S.A.

Since 1986, the NFL has expanded into new markets and ventures with the American Bowl games, starting in London. In 1991, the league formed the World League of American Football. This turned into NFL Europe, a developmental league which now has five teams in Germany and one in the Netherlands. Franchises which started in other parts of Europe have moved to Germany over the years.

The NFL played a regular-season game in Mexico City in 2005 and for the first time, a regular season game will be played outside North America in 2007 when the Miami Dolphins play the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium in the UK. In 2003, The NFL lauched its own television channel on DISH Network, the NFL Network.



Posted by: Sapahi Jul 1 2007, 01:38 PM

lol! I would rather have a guy running at me with pads than some bulked up guy whos been taking steroids and working out for God knows how long! Check out this haka (wardance):

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Rugby is unpredictable aswell, i remember i had just barged my way through everyone near the middle line and was making my way across the pitch and thought great im nearly there, just out of nowhere these guys just barged me so hard i went off the ground and fell onto the pavement and couldnt breath for a few seconds (Alhamdulilah ok though) lol!

Posted by: Rex Jul 1 2007, 05:30 PM

And football isn't? I remember once I fired off the line and beat the offensive lineman's block. Now I was in the backfield, and I sprinted towards the quarterback because he was about to pass. Me and my teammates collapsed the pocket around him, but this guy was fast so he was dartin around us trying to keep from being tackled. While he did this he screamed "YOU WHITE BOYS WILL NEVER GET ME!" At that moment I saw an offensive lineman fall to the ground, and I ran up to him, and used his back as a platform to get the jump on the quarterbacks blind side before he could get away, holdin him in place as my teammates came. Me and 6 other guys leveled the poor fool and encased him in a pile of bodies that he didn't soon forget. Because of this experience, he would hesitate when he saw one of us coming, (especially me or my friend Matt Zinn) and it was just long enough for us to level him again and again. We ended up beating his team pretty bad on the scoreboard, but the real story was on the field. We beat up every single one their players bad through the course of the game. They lost because we made them lose their hearts, and we wanted it more than they did. biggrin.gif The same team had beaten us 36-6 the year before.

Posted by: Rex Jul 1 2007, 06:13 PM

Oh, and I've seen that dance, and it's cheesy. That would not pump me up.

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These pump me up!



(They don't have videos of my school's drumline, but we're one of the best. When those drums are thumping you feel your chest well up inside, and you're ready to go and rip someone's head off!)

Posted by: Rex Jul 1 2007, 06:47 PM

here's my schools band: (if any of you live in scotland, you will like this)

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3613882


Posted by: Sapahi Jul 2 2007, 04:48 AM

Aye what a wee performance. The woman were wearing scottish kilts which men usually wear and they were doing the irish jig to the bagpipes. Then afterwards the series 'oc' theme (california) song came on LoL!

Posted by: Rex Jul 2 2007, 03:50 PM

Say what you will, but what you didn't hear was the talents of the drumline, one of the best this side of America. Those rapid fire beats with heavy bass are the ultimate way to get pumped up for the big game.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 2 2007, 06:00 PM

But if people wanted a musical show they would go to a circus, where was the warrior dances and eyeing the stand off?

Posted by: Rex Jul 2 2007, 07:28 PM

I don't think you understand our tradition. That is part of high school football. Oh, we go out and do our own little warrior dance thing, but it aint about how scary you look, it's about how hard you hit and how bad you can dominate your opponent. That dancing is frowned upon because it's considered showboating, and it makes us look stupid if we have bad game (or even a good one) Football, after all, is called the Gentleman's game.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 5 2007, 11:38 AM

QUOTE(Rex @ Jul 3 2007, 02:28 AM) *
I don't think you understand our tradition. That is part of high school football. Oh, we go out and do our own little warrior dance thing, but it aint about how scary you look, it's about how hard you hit and how bad you can dominate your opponent. That dancing is frowned upon because it's considered showboating, and it makes us look stupid if we have bad game (or even a good one) Football, after all, is called the Gentleman's game.


Cricket is a gentlemans game. smile.gif

Posted by: Rex Jul 6 2007, 11:23 AM

Cricket is BORING. No game should ever last THAT long lol

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 6 2007, 03:13 PM

Croquet is boring!

Posted by: Rex Jul 14 2007, 08:12 AM

Yes it is:D But that's why we have football and rugby. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 14 2007, 11:58 AM

^ happy.gif

Any other sport / s that interest you?

Posted by: Rex Jul 14 2007, 01:42 PM

Olympic Wrestling, and Track and Field. Oh and Basket Ball and Hockey. LaCrosse on certain occasions.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 14 2007, 02:47 PM

Nice choice! I mainly do boxing, jui jitsu / wrestling and running Masha'ALLAH!

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 14 2007, 07:32 PM

I think swimming is probably the best sport and it really makes a person fit. Alhamdulilah my grandmom used to be a very good swimmer and would swim in rivers against the current! Id go swimming but theres no separate gender swimming baths here!

Posted by: Rex Jul 14 2007, 10:39 PM

lol true. I used to wrestle, but my grades in school didn't permit me to continue. You gotta keep a certain GPA or no sports. That's one of the many reasons I stick to football, besides the fact that I LOVE it. Tried track for a while too, and I was good at it.... I just don't like running. Ran the 400 meter in like 58 seconds or something like that, can't remember. Ran the 100 a couple of times too. I know I can run 110 yards (100.59 meters) around 13-14 seconds on our football field without cleats on.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 15 2007, 07:05 AM

Good luck in your american football games, i think you will do good, especially if you enjoy it! Training for it looks hard but keep your spirit high!

P.s. Alhamdulilah amir khan won last nights fight. Good comeback Masha'ALLAH!

Posted by: Rex Jul 15 2007, 10:39 AM

Lol, well, I'm too small to ever make it to the NFL. But there are Semipro leagues around the nation, so I could still play for fun if I move into the right city.

Posted by: Sapahi Jul 15 2007, 07:53 PM

^ Hahaha thats the spirit!

Posted by: Rex Jul 15 2007, 08:39 PM

American Football is bigger here than soccer is in many countries. In the short time the football season lasts, more money is spent and more people watch (both live and tv) than soccer in the same time period. Same goes for superbowl, with the world cup garnering more because it lasts longer.

SO to be honest, I don't have much choice biggrin.gif But anyway, football taught me discipline, and as such I am who I am today, along with learning to understand others beliefs and tastes.

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