Mosque Near Ground Zero, what do you guys think about it? Rating Options

i think that its a wonderful idea that they're building a muslim center near Ground zero
its showing them that not all muslims are guilty of 9/11
alot of them are protesting but they shud stop because its gonna be built no matter what
even some muslims are discouraging this idea..............

This post has been edited by Simba: Aug 17 2010, 03:11 AM

i think that its a wonderful idea that they're building a muslim center near Ground zero
its showing them that not all muslims are guilty of 9/11
alot of them are protesting but they shud stop because its gonna be built no matter what
even some muslims are discouraging this idea..............

Well look at it like this


To many Americans this is a slap in the face.

One it was radicals that happened to be Muslim that crashed into the building killing thousands.  

Two who wants a "holy" building near such a bad memory.  Many people will harbor more and more resentment as they pass by this building everyday going to work.

Three the fence riders that were like Muslims could be bad or could be good people will be more than likely to fall to the bad people side with this. The reason Muslims are protesting this is for they see the bad propaganda that will come from all this.  You have to remember it took years for most Americans to lose the Shoot on site mentality.

It is bad taste. I mean really like there isn't any where else in the state of New York to build it.  Why would it have to be in such a taboo spot? Unless the people wanted the controversy that comes with such an idea.

I feel that it is a good idea. I am an American and it does not bother me at all. It was not all Muslims that did this horrific deed. I doesn't have to be a bad reminder as many people became Muslim afterward, Mashallah!! Many people learned the truth about Islam and Allah. Muslims also perished that day but people seem to forget that.

I pray that they build it huge so that many people can not only remember, but try to see the good that Muslims can do and have done for America. Until we understand the controversy surrounding the entire fiasco, we will never know just who really is to blame for it.

A Mosque can also house a dedication to those who lost their lives and continue to see Islam as a necessary part of this world. All Muslims do not think like those fanatics who destroyed the towers.

but juan its not our fault 9/11 happened
everybody knows for a fact that bush knew they were gonna do something then why didnt he
and if americans do see muslims at the fault then why are 20,000 americans converting to islam each year
in a couple of years everrybody knows islam is gonna be the dominant religion
Inshallah

i was kinda hoping they would make a diner there called twin towers.

I would have to agree with Juan. While we Muslims know the that 9/11 is not representative of Islam at all, the fact that we are putting ourselves in the spotlight near the biggest source of islamophobia in the world, is not very smart.

Yeah... even I agree... this is a bit tacky and unwarranted. To most Americans its going to be like a big f u honestly that's how it will feel.... it would be like if a bunch of white people in the early 70s had tried to take out a plot of land across from the hotel MLK Jr. was shot at just to show "hey we're not all that way"...

kind of taaaacky.... I mean, yes they have every right to build it, but I would jsut think what's the point right now... what's the necessity for building a mosque right now? And god forbid I don't think they'll get many regulars there because I would be scared as **** to pray in a place like that surrounded by angry Americans! In all honesty it might not be very safe for Muslims to pray in such a place!

but juan its not our fault 9/11 happened
everybody knows for a fact that bush knew they were gonna do something then why didnt he
and if americans do see muslims at the fault then why are 20,000 americans converting to islam each year
in a couple of years everrybody knows islam is gonna be the dominant religion
Inshallah

Fact is they were Muslim(in their eyes) that committed this act.  So even still I hear comments and jokes about Muslims and go boom all the time.  Nine years later.  This is a case of the actions of few ruining it for many.

As for Nazia's comment she is correct.  Why would you want to go to worship in an area that some inbred hillbilly with a scope and a rifle is waiting to pick you off?  All because this was the straw that broke the camels back?

I do like NoShadylady's idea of a memorial inside though.  It is still too close to the area.

This is just how it is though. They already even have a group speaking out against this and is growing fast.

It would be a shame to not see it as one of the biggest opportunities to have the dawah of Islam in that spot hopefully to help combat the negativity and Islamophobia.. Though it may have its drawbacks and protestors, it still may just be what NYC needs to bring people out of their hate mode and support it a Muslim Dawah Hub for all the people.

Also..there were many muslims that died that day.. and I am sure that their families would love to have them commemorated along with the others, Allahu Alim.

I believe largescale dawah can only be performed in the US with a large group of American converts black, white, and hispanic. If only the Indo-Pakistani and Arab brothers are doing it, it just looks like a religion for immigrants. We need people in the mainstream to start propagating it so it is less intimidating. We need people like Yusuf Estes and Khalid Yasin not people like Zakir Naik or Shabir Ally.

We need any and all muslims to give dawah, not a select few. Islam comes from many directions and many facets of life, one cannot out rule the other. We need all Muslims regardless of nationality!

I think there's nothing wrong with building a mosque at ground zero...I mean like otha people said, Muslims there died too! People needa put their stuff aside and just be tolerant. Even Obama accepted it. but yeahh, I did kinda get the feeling that the people who wanted it there might've been tryna create controversy. Hah, i mean it gets attention fer'sure.

I think there's nothing wrong with building a mosque at ground zero...I mean like otha people said, Muslims there died too! People needa put their stuff aside and just be tolerant. Even Obama accepted it. but yeahh, I did kinda get the feeling that the people who wanted it there might've been tryna create controversy. Hah, i mean it gets attention fer'sure.

Obama stated that they have the right to build the Mosque where ever they wish. He supports the right to build can't really say he supports the Mosque in itself. Yes they do have the right, but like I've stated before its pouring salt on an open wound. I would rather see a super mosque overlooking beautiful scenery vs this controversial spot. This is just my opinion.

Wow, for once i agree with Nazia !!! not such a good idea. just think if it were a historic religious location that was destroyed, now they want to build a casino (since you all know that's where a lot of worship goes on), how would you respond? Ok, not so drastic a statue or a wall of names to memorialize those who died.

on the other hand you never know it may just be a test of Iman from Allah, and it will be a hardship to worship there, now how many will knowingly put themselves in harms way to worship there lord, when you can easily go to your regular Mosque and do it with ease

Wow, for once i agree with Nazia !!! not such a good idea. just think if it were a historic religious location that was destroyed, now they want to build a casino (since you all know that's where a lot of worship goes on), how would you respond? Ok, not so drastic a statue or a wall of names to memorialize those who died.

on the other hand you never know it may just be a test of Iman from Allah, and it will be a hardship to worship there, now how many will knowingly put themselves in harms way to worship there lord, when you can easily go to your regular Mosque and do it with ease

LOL how ironic... don't hate me mureed but it seems you finally agree wit me on something and I was actually coming on this thread with the intent of changing the opinion I had set forth! well not entirely. I still say I would not pray at that mosque simply because I would never feel safe there. I feel like it's kind of looking for trouble I guess... but when I wrote my responses the first time it was before I heard any news of trying to get it blocked

I was on the road for awhile this summer. During one month long stretch I was traveling with my mother for one portion. When we crossed the border from Canada into Maine we stopped in a little visitors center in Lubec. My mother is Jewish while I am a Muslim I will point out. My mother and I began visiting with the really old couple who owned this place, no body else was there. I brought up how we were heading back to NYC and the old lady said: "did you guys hear, they are trying to build a mosque there? Near the ground zero?" My mother's eyes lit up... "WHAT?!?" She exclaimed. It wasn't that she said 'what'... it was the way she sad it... as though she were absolutely disgusted by even the thought... like she was offended by the very thought.... it was like she and that old lady almost forgot I was in the room or something... I just kept quiet... I didn't see the point... she will probably never know how that tiny moment really hurt me and I felt miles away from her at that moment. LIke I was a stranger to her. A stranger in the country. at that moment I felt very different about this issue.

Yes I think it was ballsy... yes I think it was too soon... yes I'd be afraid to pray there... but yes we have absolutely just as much right as any body else to build a mosque. The backlash this is receiving is ridiculous. I was beginning to feel like Islamophobia was over... this is like the McCarthyism I always read about in history books.

Here's a nice video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0...layer_embedded#

This post has been edited by Nazia1987: Aug 17 2010, 07:18 PM

Hi readers

During the weekend I read an article in CNN about Obama’s endorsement for the construction of the controversial mosque near the Ground Zero. Although it must have been a difficult decision, I think it was the right decision.

Perhaps capitalism among others represents the United States and the western world in general best. The most symbolic monument of capitalism was the World Trade Centers in New York. There were indeed impressive buildings, because I visited there several years before they were destroyed by Islamic extremists. In a sense these buildings for the westerners are equivalent to the Great Mosque of Hajj for Muslims. Although I am neither an American nor a westerner, the destruction of the Twin Towers must have been a painful humiliation to the hearts of Americans. In that sense they might have every reason to oppose the construction of the mosque near the Ground Zero. In spite of the symbolic meaning of the destruction of the World Trade Centers, I still believe the Obama administration has made the right decision based on the right of the freedom of religion. Religious freedom must be exercised everywhere, including even the most painful place. This should be a good precedent to the world including Islamic countries. Considering this example, building a church near the Great Mosque of Hajj should be even much easier because it is unlikely to be destroyed by Christian extremists. In a sense, the Obama administration demonstrated the words of Jesus to those who are involved in the political movement of Islam (conquering the world with Islam and Shariah), “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also.” (Luke 6:27-29)

This is my personal advice to non-Muslims and particularly non-Muslim Americans in this forum. In fact many people have shown their objections and concerns to the construction of the mosque near the Ground Zero. They might have every reason for the opposition, but I believe it is time to move forward. After all, is USA known and praised by the world for protecting the religious freedom for everybody? While they should be vigilant to the political movement of Islam by some Muslims, they also should extend the full religious freedom to other Muslims who do not follow this movement. But we also need to consider the emotional side of the victim’s families as well as the public.

What I'm waiting for is for construction to start and the American anit-Muslim extremos come out to ruin it.

What I'm waiting for is for construction to start and the American anit-Muslim extremos come out to ruin it.

ya seriously... this is what will happen. once it is being built some crazy racists will start picketing and making bomb threats and what not... so they will have to put up police security around it... and then more racists will say, why are you spending money protecting this mosque now?? Then even more racists will come because they will be mad over that..

then once it's completed... who knows...

Hi juan and Nazia1987

Thanks for your comment. I hope the worst case scenario will not happen. As I mentioned before, I still believe the religious freedom should be protected for everybody and Muslims have right to build their mosque anywhere. But a part of the equation is the emotion of the general public, who ask “Why near Ground Zero although they are many other places?” We cannot completely ignore this aspect. Let us turn the table by 180 degrees. Suppose that Christian extremists destroyed the Great Mosque of Hajj in Mecca with suicide planes and several years later some Christians tried to build a church two blocks away from the destroyed Mosque. How would Saudi Arabians feel? Although those Christians would invoke the religious freedom for the construction, I would regard their decision as unwise and insensitive.

Asslam alakum