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so what sorta bidah is this ?

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This post has been edited by Kiran: Mar 23 2008, 09:06 AM

good explanation. it is one of bid'a of hasene.but in fact it is a great explanation. so somebody may stop accuse muslims of commiting bid'a.

To say that celebrating his birth is Bidah on the basis that there is no evidence that he, himself ever did is wrong.

There is no evidence in supporting the fact that the Prophet ever recited the Adhan. Infact, Imam Nawawi (i believe) admitted that the Prophet had never recited the Adhan.

Does it mean its a sin to do so?

For Umar who didnt read what AlaMahlik posted:

BID'AH MUSTAHAB: is that act which is done with an anticipation for earning reward, for example to pray the Meelad-un-Nabi (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) or to pray Fatiha for the souls of deceased Muslims, etc. If is done with the intention of gaining rewards, he will gain reward for it, and if one does not do it, he will not be reprimanded for coming it.

Oh, I see! And the fact that he died in that month too is... insignificant?

All I'm saying is that where does all this come into religion? Did the sahabas commemorate his birthday in this way? Who started it?

O people! There has come an admonition to you from your Lord, and healing of hearts, and guidance and a mercy for the believers. Say you, 'only Allah' grace and only His mercy, on it therefore let them rejoice. That is better than all their wealth. (Surah Al-Yunus, Verse 57,58)

And this is what we do, we celebrate; we rejoice; we do spend our money and time to show gratitude to ALLAH Almighty on HIS greatest mercy and Blessing i.e. celebrations of Meeladun Nabi because Qur'an Says:
And We sent not you, but a mercy for all worlds. (Surah Al-Anbiya, Verse 107)[size="5"][/size]

huh?
what does these verses has to do with celebrating Prophets birthday


[018:104] "Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life, while they thought that they were acquiring good by their works?"

so really all these extra efforts are going in vain


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjc4FYOZS0Q

This post has been edited by PureMusulman: Mar 23 2008, 04:09 PM

To say that celebrating his birth is Bidah on the basis that there is no evidence that he, himself ever did is wrong.

There is no evidence in supporting the fact that the Prophet ever recited the Adhan. Infact, Imam Nawawi (i believe) admitted that the Prophet had never recited the Adhan.

Does it mean its a sin to do so?

What you on about?

The Prophet asked for the adhan to be read. He consented to it. That and Milad is totally different. The virtues of the adhaan can be read in ahadith so you can't categorise it the same.

The whole argument is not about sending durood, praying on his birthday (which itself is a controversial date....when is it exactly??), rather it is the idea that celebrating the milad is established through religion.

Where have we been asked to make this one day significant? Who is it that assigned this one day?

Where have we been asked to make this one day significant? Who is it that assigned this one day?

Shia Fatimad Empire Egypt, four hundred years after Prophet's death

But that is the thing, it is not only done on that day.
You people are not out enough to actually learn that it can be celebrated on any day of the year in any month, but we choose to celebrate it during the month in which he lived and in which he died, Allaahumma salli wa sallim wa baarik 3alaayh.

ok i dont wana interupt this discussion...to tell you the truth it seems useless... for those who celebrate it you have your daleel for those who dont you have yours...this is just gona go round in circles...no one is gona change thier views..

To say that celebrating his birth is Bidah on the basis that there is no evidence that he, himself ever did is wrong.

There is no evidence in supporting the fact that the Prophet ever recited the Adhan. Infact, Imam Nawawi (i believe) admitted that the Prophet had never recited the Adhan.

Does it mean its a sin to do so?

but i gota comment on this...adhan is not a bid'ah as it was around in the prophet's time. so you cant compare this to celebrating the prophets brithdate.
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I pray Allah SubhanawaTa-ala forgives us all and keeps us on the staright path and UNITES us ALL as ONE muslim ummah like back in the days of the prophet

To say that celebrating his birth is Bidah on the basis that there is no evidence that he, himself ever did is wrong.

There is no evidence in supporting the fact that the Prophet ever recited the Adhan. Infact, Imam Nawawi (i believe) admitted that the Prophet had never recited the Adhan.

Does it mean its a sin to do so?

What you on about?

The Prophet asked for the adhan to be read. He consented to it. That and Milad is totally different. The virtues of the adhaan can be read in ahadith so you can't categorise it the same.

The whole argument is not about sending durood, praying on his birthday (which itself is a controversial date....when is it exactly??), rather it is the idea that celebrating the milad is established through religion.

Where have we been asked to make this one day significant? Who is it that assigned this one day?

The argument was that "When has the Prophet ever celebrated his or someone elses birthday".

The Prophet never himself recited the adhan. He told others to do it. But he himself had never practiced the act.

This is to prove that just because the Prophet did not do something does not automatically make it unlawful.

Therefore, you will have to prove to me, from the words of the Prophet himself, where he has said that celebrating ones birthday is not permissble.

why are you comparing celebrating birthdays to Adhan?
Adhan was around in the prophet's time...therefore it IS NOT a bid'ah whereas celebrating the birth of the prophet came after his time making it a Bid'ah the debate lies in what type of a Bid'ah it is..

why are you comparing celebrating birthdays to Adhan?
Adhan was around in the prophet's time...therefore it IS NOT a bid'ah whereas celebrating the birth of the prophet came after his time making it a Bid'ah the debate lies in what type of a Bid'ah it is..

Bidah is something thats innovated in religion. Something that is changed.

For example, it would be Bidah to ban Mutah, becuase you are changing the law of Allah.

The Prophet never said celebrate nor did he say celebrate his birthday.

Has the Prophet ever warned anyone to not celebrate their own birthdays? Surely the Prophet of Allah would warn them of this

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I would just like to say, Brothers and Sisters, that I completely appreciate your complete following of the footsteps of the Prophet (pbuh) with which you only do what he (pbuh) did. I find that beautiful, Wallaahi, and something that all people must do.

However, if you really want to get as close to Allah (swt) as you can, and to be able to meet His Messenger (pbuh), then you must do the same things that those who Followed them did.

The word bid3ah has been stolen from the literature and played around with by people who have no 'ilm (Sacred Knowledge). Those excellent scholars of ours have sliced through and filtered every section of our deen, so that Islam may continue on as a beautiful and successful entity.

If you do not wish to celebrate the Prophet (pbuh)'s birthday, then by all means, don't. However, if you care to actually look into the past, and see the rules and regulations laid down to us by people who had the authority, though did not play around with the deen, to assist us in becoming closer with our Lord, then you may learn something - Islam is the easiest, most relaxed religion, and your Lord is the Almighty, The Most Merciful and the Compassionate, none having Compassion as He does, Subhaanahuu wa ta3aalaa.

Things like the Taraaweeh prayers, and celebrating his (pbuh) birthday, and other acts which people straight away take as bid3ah, people would learn that these things have been thought about, they have been pondered, and they do not cut through any part of the deen at all. Each thing has had its rules and limits laid down, and they must not be transgressed, for if they are, then they transgress the laws laid down by the Sharii3ah. Now THAT is a bid3ah that leads to the "naar".

Again, I really am impressed wholesomely by your complete adhesion to the Prophet's (pbuh) Sunnah, but know that the Prophet (pbuh) brought to us an easy religion, and not one that shall constrict us so much, that it has caused people to transgress the limits set by Allah, and do such haram acts, they cannot be even spoken about on this site, and should never be spoken about.

I hope that your lives are lived out with salaam and khair.

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OK look....people that do celebrate mawlid.... theres way of doing it ok....
yesterday there was a seerah conference that i attended... one of the scholars there was explaining that people who celebrate mawlid... they are doing it for a reason...celebrating his birth and coming into this world a mercy to mankind... yes.... now there are people who don't celebrate mawlid the way others do BUT fulfill the purpose of mawlid...which is 2 revive and act trying to act upon every sunnah of the blessed Prophet now from what i see myself... from these "marches" i ain't to judge nor is anyone else taht is up to Allah but....how can we go around mraching about the birth of the noble messenger when we hardly have any sunnahs in our lives....
mawlid can be doing many different things.... acting upon his sunnah is the most important.... we read the kalimah... deeper meaning to this is that Allah is the doer of each and every thing and does not need the help of the creation....the 2nd part meaning.... "success lies in following the ways of rasulullah ONLY and following any other way will lead to failure in this life and also in the hereafter....

sooo bascially pplz going around celebrating... the best way to celebrate is to revive his sunnah not by marching... that is my opinion by the way soo i can be contradicted....
if we were soo much on the deen and had the blessed sunnah of the Prophet in our lives... then there would never be the need to march... we may argue its raising awareness and so on...but like in the time of the Sahabah(ra) they were on complete deen that is why the non believers would come and take the shahadah because of their character.... they were like walking talking Qurans because of the imaan that was made so firm inside their hearts.... anyway enough said...just something i wanted to get across.....(don't know if all that ^ makes sense lol...)

I have no problem with people not celebrating it

But when people say I am sinning by celebrating the birth of our saviour, then that annoys me.

I dont see how someone can say it is haram to do so JUST because we were not told to do it.

In Islam, everything is permisslbe until we are told otherwise

^ Ok truu..what is the best way of celebrating it then?

I dont agree with all the dancing and clapping.

These things arent even allowed at weddings.

I would say some poetry, food, Quran recitations, stories... things like these.

Dancing? Barailwiyat do not do that

we celebrate milde nebi s.a.w doing gather in mosque, tekke or at home . we read a book that is named mewlud that tell about miracles of prophet and his holy life, bring salawat upon him and his family. after that we eat/drink cany type food and usually scholars preach about deen, clapping and dancing never heard about it , that might be discussed to be bid'a or not.( somebody pls tell me how can i put periods between my sentences, paragraphs)