Make Room For The Jew In The Me?, Why can't the Jew have a homeland? Options

Why will the Arab not make room for a Jewish nation in the ME? They believe in the same God, need a homeland, were promised to return to it. The ME is so large, I just don't get why the Arab can't MOVE and make ROOM for the Jew. There is a verse in the Quran that supports this, like if told to move do so...

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Why will the Arab not make room for a Jewish nation in the ME? They believe in the same God, need a homeland, were promised to return to it. The ME is so large, I just don't get why the Arab can't MOVE and make ROOM for the Jew. There is a verse in the Quran that supports this, like if told to move do so...

never heard of this-supply me with the ayah and with the surah it comes from and back me up with a few hadiths and then i will be bothered to talk about this...at the moment i cant be bothered to argue with you bcz i have never heard of this verse you choose to speak about or more likely to have made up but i have heard of this (not exact wording) if ppl want to kick you out of your land and oppress you then fight them until oppression is no more

p.s: could you just say that you are jewish and stop pretending to be a muslim?

ur arguments are all **** and u have no knowledge about the Quran nor hadiths~so it will be appreciated if u stop pretending to be a muslim....



(if u r a muslim~go to intensive islamic classes~u know NOTHING about islam)

Wow someone sounds like they need a nap!!!

58:11
Khalifa
O you who believe, if you are told, "Please make room," you shall make room for each other to sit. GOD will then make room for you. If you are asked to get up and move, get up and move. GOD raises those among you who believe, and those who acquire knowledge to higher ranks. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

hw about u give me the surah this comes from and a hadith that backs it up? then ill go to sleep...

p.s: could you just say that you are jewish and stop pretending to be a muslim?

ur arguments are all **** and u have no knowledge about the Quran nor hadiths~so it will be appreciated if u stop pretending to be a muslim....



(if u r a muslim~go to intensive islamic classes~u know NOTHING about islam)

So what would make him a muslim in your eyes?

i bear witness that there is only one god Allah and that Muhammed is his messenger

that is it basically~(and personally knowing some Quran and hadith and practising islam)

i bear witness that there is only one god Allah and that Muhammed is his messenger

that is it basically~(and personally knowing some Quran and hadith and practising islam)

So if he believes there is one god and Mohammed is his messenger. Plus he reads the Quran and studies the Quran would make him Muslim? How do you know he doesn't do these very same things which you have listed? Have you asked him?

Why will the Arab not make room for a Jewish nation in the ME? They believe in the same God, need a homeland, were promised to return to it. The ME is so large, I just don't get why the Arab can't MOVE and make ROOM for the Jew. There is a verse in the Quran that supports this, like if told to move do so...

bcz juan i have read the Quran quite a few times and know a bit of it off by heart and NEVER have i heard of this verse~so i asked him from which surah he got it from and he hasn't answered me~does this answer?
p.s: Allah has not tolded us to move anywhere
p.s.s: river stop using god and use Allah

Why will the Arab not make room for a Jewish nation in the ME? They believe in the same God, need a homeland, were promised to return to it. The ME is so large, I just don't get why the Arab can't MOVE and make ROOM for the Jew. There is a verse in the Quran that supports this, like if told to move do so...

bcz juan i have read the Quran quite a few times and know a bit of it off by heart and NEVER have i heard of this verse~so i asked him from which surah he got it from and he hasn't answered me~does this answer?
p.s: Allah has not tolded us to move anywhere
p.s.s: river stop using god and use Allah

Scroll up and look again. This is what he wrote as an edit.

Wow someone sounds like they need a nap!!!

58:11
Khalifa
O you who believe, if you are told, "Please make room," you shall make room for each other to sit. GOD will then make room for you. If you are asked to get up and move, get up and move. GOD raises those among you who believe, and those who acquire knowledge to higher ranks. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

which surah and which number is this though?

is this surah ten or fifty or what?

which surah and which number is this though?

is this surah ten or fifty or what?

58:11 is what it says.


Edit: I went to google and typed in Surah 58:11 it gave me this title.
Surah 58. Al-Mujadila After that I assume line 11.


This post has been edited by juan: Jun 23 2008, 02:21 AM

wow! man i actually know that surah off by heart!
man that is weird...

anyway

it is of those who BELIEVE
when river first said that bit in his first post he said it towards the jews but I (and most muslims) do not believe that the jews believe~we believe that they USED to believe but they dont anymore bcz they r now CORRUPTED and that is why i disagree with river (and most muslims would agree with me)

and it is surat al-mujadilah

wow! man i actually know that surah off by heart!
man that is weird...

anyway

it is of those who BELIEVE
when river first said that bit in his first post he said it towards the jews but I (and most muslims) do not believe that the jews believe~we believe that they USED to believe but they dont anymore bcz they r now CORRUPTED and that is why i disagree with river (and most muslims would agree with me)

So you are saying the Quran doesnt not apply these days???? If they are corrupted that would mean this verse was out of date. As it doesnt apply to them anymore.

I think you should *really* learn more knowledge before answering such questions and *trying* to debate with these matters.

p.s: could you just say that you are jewish and stop pretending to be a muslim?

ur arguments are all **** and u have no knowledge about the Quran nor hadiths~so it will be appreciated if u stop pretending to be a muslim....



(if u r a muslim~go to intensive islamic classes~u know NOTHING about islam)

How can you say that?? Some one who has a different view and you're now question whether this person is a muslim?? You have NO RIGHT to do that.
Have you stuidied The Quran or Hadith with a respected scholar? Put years of effort into learning what they both mean?

You are taking this ayah literally.
How about (river) you do some backround research on it?

If Jews need home land why its have to be Jerusalem why not disneyland
what about homeless Palestinian
It was middle eastern people who took them when west kicked them out of Germany
Now no one can throw them out of Palestine apart from the JESUS
So await

Bismillaah-

That verse talks about 'Aadaab (etiquette) when we are in the Masjids and in the homes of our fellow Muslims. It has NOTHING to do with Palestinians just giving up their blessed land to some Jews- Subhan'Allaah!

I'll get back to this later.

Wassalaam.

^agreed


finally some normal muslims have come to my defense

Bismillaah-

That verse talks about 'Aadaab (etiquette) when we are in the Masjids and in the homes of our fellow Muslims. It has NOTHING to do with Palestinians just giving up their blessed land to some Jews- Subhan'Allaah!

I'll get back to this later.

Wassalaam.

You know you sound just like Ibf. I mean real close. Is he your blood brother? Its nice that in that verse I've seen Masjids and fellow muslims added but wasn't there. Couldn't the verse went, If a fellow muslim asks to move then you move? Its to vague. Doesn't say move over for the Jews either. Oh wait it says both. Back on Palestine. Did they own their "blessed" home land or did someone else?