Mawlid - Nabi Options

WHY DO THIS ?!

did the Prophet himself say to us 'celebrate this' ?

Nothing in Islam is prohibited until we are told it is.

Has the Prophet said that it is a sin?

then man has added an addition to it...isn't this an innovation ?

Nothing in Islam is prohibited until we are told it is.

Has the Prophet said that it is a sin?

An even better way to answer that is did the prophet celebrate his birthday?

did the prophet celebrate ANYONE's bday ?!

did the prophet celebrate ANYONE's bday ?!

Very good point.

What i dont understand is how can it be 'Bidah' , when what we are doing is send praises to the Prophet Muhammed ...

What i dont understand is how can it be 'Bidah' , when what we are doing is send praises to the Prophet Muhammed ...

See? That's not the actual problem. Sending salutations upon the prophet has been encouraged by hadith etc..

The whole debate is with regards to assigning one day in which we cook special food, have a big party and the rest. We just wonder where this came from.

What i dont understand is how can it be 'Bidah' , when what we are doing is send praises to the Prophet Muhammed ...

See? That's not the actual problem. Sending salutations upon the prophet has been encouraged by hadith etc..

The whole debate is with regards to assigning one day in which we cook special food, have a big party and the rest. We just wonder where this came from.

We don't exactly have a 'party', the things we do is: Blast Nasheeds, The males march holding the banner of Islam high and praising the Prophet , Hold byaans/milaad so all the Muslim[s] can get together and praise the Prophet , I don't see whats wrong with this. Rabbi-ul-Awwal is the best month to do all of this in because this is the birth month of the Prophet .

Oh, I see! And the fact that he died in that month too is... insignificant?

All I'm saying is that where does all this come into religion? Did the sahabas commemorate his birthday in this way? Who started it?

Oh, I see! And the fact that he died in that month too is... insignificant?

All I'm saying is that where does all this come into religion? Did the sahabas commemorate his birthday in this way? Who started it?

O people! There has come an admonition to you from your Lord, and healing of hearts, and guidance and a mercy for the believers. Say you, 'only Allah' grace and only His mercy, on it therefore let them rejoice. That is better than all their wealth. (Surah Al-Yunus, Verse 57,58)

And this is what we do, we celebrate; we rejoice; we do spend our money and time to show gratitude to ALLAH Almighty on HIS greatest mercy and Blessing i.e. celebrations of Meeladun Nabi because Qur’an Says:
And We sent not you, but a mercy for all worlds. (Surah Al-Anbiya, Verse 107)[size="5"][/size]

hmm.

"O mankind, there has come to you the Admonition from your Lord: this is the remedy for the diseases of the heart, and guidance and blessing for those who believe in it. O Prophet, say, "It is the bounty of Allah and His mercy that He has sent this thing: let the people rejoice over it for it is better than what they amass."

These ayahs aren't referring to Milaad. It's talking about the blessing of the quran.

we have been left with two celebrations (as a community)

eid ul fitr
eid ul adha

thats it..

making a new one...isn't that an innovation ?

No we should not celebrate Prophet's birthday

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) saw (a tendency ) among his Companions to go to the back, so he said to them: Come forward and follow my lead, and let those who come after you follow your lead. People will continue to keep back till Allah will put them at the back. (Book #004, Hadith #0878)

this hadith shows that we should follow the Prophet and there companions
now shia can say we don't believe that all companions were loyal, but in this case none of the companions celebrated Prophet's birthday

we should also take this into account that Prophet said out of 73 sects only 1 will go to heaven, that sect is the one which Prophet and his companions follow

celebrating Prophet's birthday first started in eleventh century by Ismaili Shia ruling class in Egypt

If you're gonna call it bid'a then call your madhabs biddah, call you're 'hadith' bid'a, with that logic call shariah bid'a too.

Did the Prophet(SAWS) live with any of those?

didnt hadrath umar start the prayers of taraweeh? so is it also bid'a?..pplş bring salawat upon prophet s.a.w. reading a book named mewlidin nebi that praises prophet and telling from his life.nobody has ever claimed that it is fard to celebrate his birthday . according this how come it can be bid'ah?

good point brother al-din as darfur

If you're gonna call it bid'a then call your madhabs biddah, call you're 'hadith' bid'a, with that logic call shariah bid'a too.

Did the Prophet(SAWS) live with any of those?

this is not adding something EXTRA to the religion,
hadith is a collection of what the prophet did, it does not add it to the religion, changing it now does it ?

so bad example akhi

If you're gonna call it bid'a then call your madhabs biddah, call you're 'hadith' bid'a, with that logic call shariah bid'a too.

Did the Prophet(SAWS) live with any of those?

my madhab is Islam
Prophet madhab is Islam
Hadiths are sayings of Prophet so i don't know how can you call them bid'a unless you can proove them fabricated
Shariah if on the rules of islam then cannot be bid'a

This post has been edited by PureMusulman: Mar 22 2008, 04:38 AM

Dont jump to conclusions any new thing inovated IN RELIGION is Bid'ah and that means everything including the construction of madressas, the compilation of ilm and fiqh, the compilation of hadith, to put down the quran in to a book form..now theres diffrent types to Bid'ah you can read about it all here..
http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/fiqh/bidah_a...ml#_Toc73960212
i suggest you read the whole thing...


DEFINITION OF THE CATEGORIES OF BID'AH AND THEIR CHARACTERISTICS


We have seen that a Bid'ah, which does not contradict with the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah is Bid'ah Hasana and that which contradicts with the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah or leads to an annihilation of a Sunnah is Bid'ah Sai'yya.

Bid'ah is divided into five categories and the characteristics of each is given below.

A. BID'AH JA'IZ: is that action which the Sharee'ah prohibited and which is done without expecting any reward or punishment for it. For example, partaking in a variety of delicious dishes or wearing nice and attractive clothing etc.

B. BID'AH MUSTAHAB: is that act which is done with an anticipation for earning reward, for example to pray the Meelad-un-Nabi (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) or to pray Fatiha for the souls of deceased Muslims, etc. If is done with the intention of gaining rewards, he will gain reward for it, and if one does not do it, he will not be reprimanded for coming it.

Mirqat Bab-ul I'tisaam says, "Hadrat Abdullah Ibn-e-Mas'ood (Radhi Allahu anhu) has narrated from the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) that, 'What the Muslims consider as good then it is also considered as good by Allah.' Another Hadith which is Marfu' says, 'My Ummah will not agree upon a thing which is misleading." In the first pages of Mishkat there is a Hadith, "Verily action depend upon intentions and a man will get whatever he intends for."

The book of Fiqh Durr-e-Mukhtaar (Vol. 1) under the chapter of Mustahabs of Ablutions says, "A Mustahab action is that action which the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) at times did and at times omitted and also that which the Muslims preceding us thought to be good."

The book Shaami (Vol. 2) under the Chapter of Qurbani says, "Verily good intentions change habits into worship." It is also written similarly in the book Mirqat under the Chapter of Intentions.

From these Hadiths and quotations from different books of Fiqh we come to know that whatever permissible action done with an intention of anticipating rewards or that which the Muslims consider as reward earning is also considered as rewarding in the Judgement of Allah ( ). Muslims are witnesses of Allahu ta 'ala and whatever they witness to be good is good and whatever they witness to be evil is evil."

C. BID'AH WAJIB: is that new action which has not been prohibited in the Shari'ah but to omit it will lead to critical complications in the religion. For example, to put the expressions (I'raab) in the Holy Qur'an such as Fatha (Zabar), Kasra (Zer) and Dhamma (Pesh), to construct the knowledge of nahv (Arabic syntax) etc. are all Bid'ah Wajib. Let's take an example of the complication, which the Muslims will face if one of these things war to be omitted. Supposing the expression of the Holy Qur'an were to be erased, then millions of Muslims who are not familiar with the Arabic syntax (Nahv - the learning of which is also Bid'ah Wajib) will not be able to read the Holy Book correctly and will be sinful for reading it incorrectly.

D. BID'AH MAKRUH: is that innovation the performing of which will lead to die annihilation of a Sunnah. If a Ghair Mo'akkidah Sunnah is annihilated then it is Makruh Tanzihi and if a Mu'akkidah Sunnah is annihilated then it is Makruh Tahrimi. For example, to pray the Eid Khutbah in a language other than Arabic etc. is Bid'ah Makruh Tahrimi.

E. BID'AH HARAAM: Is that innovation which will lead to the annihilation of a Wajib. For example, the introduction of beliefs which are in contradiction with the Kitaab and Sunnah, such as Qadriyya who believes, that man has got all the power to do whatever he wishes, and Jabriyya who believes that man has got no power at all and all actions are done under compulsion, whereas the belief of the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat is that man has been given option in some things and is under compulsion in some. So to believe as the Qadriyya of the Jabriyya will lead to the annihilation of a Wajib, which is Haraam. Many sects have been introduced into Islam after the Holy Prophet Rasoolullah (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) said: "My Ummah will be divided into seventy three Sects and all will be in Hell except one. That upon which I and my Sahaba are."