Why Do Muslims Support Obama? Options

All the kuffar are the same <-- lol i agree. *High five*

i agree with iamcrazy...if u look at non-muslims in a negative and narrowminded way, how can u expect them to not do the same to us and accept us?

Bismillaah-

I think what Akhi Abdul Aziz was saying was that their (kuffaar) leaders are always inclined against the muslimin and the umma of nabi muhammad (sallallaho 'alaihe wa salaam).

i know abdul aziz in real life and i know for a fact that he knows that there are a faction from among the kuffaar who have not shown hostility unto the muslimeen- we are required to respect the kuffaar who have shown support for us.

Obama, Hillary, McCain, and all the other leaders of the kufr nations dont count- we are in fact required by our din to hate them- similarly as the Muslimeen of medina hated the quraysh and their leaders.

Show me where Obama hates on Muslims.

I have never waited for the acceptance nor approval of the kuffar, i do not look at them narrow-mindly...However They all seem to have a similarity.

This post has been edited by kellyjaz: Jun 10 2008, 09:55 AM

I'll reiterate, hating on Muslims. ANY presidential candidate has to be pro-israel,

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

More Obama Hate:

and there is no hate against Muslims as a whole in believing Jerusalem should be Israel's capital.

are you kidding me, right?
Supporting Israel is one of the most anti-Islamic thing one could do.

Justifying 60 years of a Palestinian holocaust, then saying jerusalam will never have grounds in a Palestinian state?

Thats Hate Guy.

I wouldn't even call it hate against Palestine, just disagreeing with their stance. Hate is an outright disrespect, not a contradictory political stance.

That was outright disrespect.

See Above.

Saying Apartheid, The use of chemical weapons, Genocide, and Imperialism are okay?

Thats hate if I ever saw it.

Why is it when a person supports Isreal in one aspect many people believe that person hates all Muslims? So he supports Isreal on the capital issue, that in turn means he hates on Palestinians, which in turn means he hates on all muslims? So safe to assume if you hate on one you hate on all correct?

Perhaps because after 60 years of a kafir holocaust of the Palestinians- and its clear support by America, the hearts of the Muslimin are like volcanos in their anger. If someone supports Israel in anyway, that for a Muslim would be Kufr (disbelief), and for a non-Muslim (who would already be a Kaffir), only reaffirms their hatred of the Muslimeen of Filisteen.

So you just roll supporting "Israel in anyway" into hatred of Muslims in Palestine.

Want to show me the logic to achieve this? It makes no sense, unless you want to go to great lengths to just throw people into some mob rule "You're either with us or against us" mentality.

Malikah,
Yep just confirmed it by that post you hate on one you hate on all. Wonder how many sunnis could be considered "muslim haters" for the way they treat and feel about shias, or vice versa?


If that isn't the case then how can you do the same for anyone else? I agree with Chailvr and would like to see your reasoning for this.

So you just roll supporting "Israel in anyway" into hatred of Muslims in Palestine.

When you support the occupying force in ANY WAY, you are against the occupied people. Thats why people boycotted south africa, and thats why we boycott israel.

Want to show me the logic to achieve this? It makes no sense, unless you want to go to great lengths to just throw people into some mob rule "You're either with us or against us" mentality.

Its not about "mob rule" its the simple fact that any effort you put into making israel greater makes the Palestinian people suffer more. More people killed, more homes demolished, more walls built etc.

You can't support the occupier and the occupied. Its one of those rare situations where you ARE either with or against a people.

Why is it when a person supports Isreal in one aspect many people believe that person hates all Muslims? So he supports Isreal on the capital issue, that in turn means he hates on Palestinians, which in turn means he hates on all muslims? So safe to assume if you hate on one you hate on all correct?

This is an extremely different situation than any other in the world today. You cant be fore Jerusalem to Israel, and still be in support of a Palestinian state. That type of duality just doesn't exist. Theres no room for it.

I never said he hates all Muslims for that I'm saying the "mainstream" U.S. candidates for president, and the U.S. administration continually attack the Muslims, and its seems as if nothing will change in the past.

As for the comments made in this thread, I see them more of a product than a cause of international strife. When politicians talk about taking Jerusalem from the Palestinians, or bombing Pakistan, people get angry.

So you just roll supporting "Israel in anyway" into hatred of Muslims in Palestine.

Want to show me the logic to achieve this? It makes no sense, unless you want to go to great lengths to just throw people into some mob rule "You're either with us or against us" mentality.

Malikah,
Yep just confirmed it by that post you hate on one you hate on all. Wonder how many sunnis could be considered "muslim haters" for the way they treat and feel about shias, or vice versa?


If that isn't the case then how can you do the same for anyone else? I agree with Chailvr and would like to see your reasoning for this.

Like I said before Occupations are the general exceptions to the rule of thumb, its wierd how people forget that these aren't two political parties, but one being occupied, and one occupier. You can't have duality, and when you make comments like that you've picked sides, and condemned the Palestinians to further pain and oppression.

As a muslim, as a human being, I can't accept this.

The Sunni/Shi3a conflict is A LOT different.

There are very few issues like this and that conflict. Sunni's don't consider themselves muslim haters because they dont consider them muslim. Some shi3a dont consider sunni's muslim in response, and when they dont see each other as brothers conflict happens. The sunni's and shi3a were one one.

The zionists were never one with the jews, christians, and muslims of palestine, even the jewish population resents zionism, especially those taken from arab/african lands.

Hating on Muslims = Combating important terrorists on actionable intelligence, just because it's in a primarily Muslim country?

wow combating terrorists, I can't beleive that seriously just came from you. When ever america 'combats terrorists' they always end up killing civilians even though we have the technology to elimate single targets with ease.

He wasn't supporting Israel's complete views, he was supporting ONE of them which is Jerusalem as their capital. If I support one view of Bush's, does that mean I support the war, Guantanamo, and the Patriot Act?

Do you know what that would mean for the Palestinians having Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Do you really know of the chaos that would ensue the blood that wold be shed and the Christian and Muslim holy sites that would be lost? To make this Israel's capital would be a breach of global contract and is the epitome of all of Israels actions. To justify an Israeli Jerusalem is to justify the Palestinian holocaust.

If you support the War on terror then yes, that would mean you would accept gitmo, and the partiot act as a nessecity. At least thats what I've seen.

Bismillah,

Islaam is the final religion for all humanity- it not only brings the individual to the realization that there is only one God (AWJ), but that the Qur'an is the Word of Allaah (AWJ) and Muhammad (SAWW) is the Messenger of Allah (AWJ).

Consequently, it has divided the world into those who wish to follow Islaam in its entirety, and those who either wish to pick and choose from the teachings of Islaam or, become Kuffaar entirely. You are either with Dar al-Islam or you are with Dar al-Kufr. How can one support both, especially when we are so near the End Times, he Day of Judgment?

May Allaah swt grant us Hedaayah and also enable us to guide others and spread the Deen! Ameen!

Bismillah,

Islaam is the final religion for all humanity- it not only brings the individual to the realization that there is only one God (AWJ), but that the Qur'an is the Word of Allaah (AWJ) and Muhammad (SAWW) is the Messenger of Allah (AWJ).

Consequently, it has divided the world into those who wish to follow Islaam in its entirety, and those who either wish to pick and choose from the teachings of Islaam or, become Kuffaar entirely. You are either with Dar al-Islam or you are with Dar al-Kufr. How can one support both, especially when we are so near the End Times, he Day of Judgment?

May Allaah swt grant us Hedaayah and also enable us to guide others and spread the Deen! Ameen!

Islam isnt that black and white.

Quran is perfect, but after that WE have to find truth.

I don't support him, I am a McCain Supporter. Why? Because with age comes Wisdom, and I choose Wisdom over Optimism, especially since the next president will be facing down Iran.

I don't support him, I am a McCain Supporter. Why? Because with age comes Wisdom, and I choose Wisdom over Optimism, especially since the next president will be facing down Iran.

Some wisdom when the dude said he doesn't know anything about the economy.

Yeah but he is smart enough to know that he doesn't know and courageous enough to admit it.

That is why he will pick advisers if he was elected.

But he is a Republican remember, and republicans have a pretty much known policy on the economy; "Dont touch it", let the market forces do their job, that is why God created them.

Republicans also don't like social welfare programs, they believe in community helping those to pull each other up, kinda like zakat, and working your way out of the mess you find yourself in by finding a job..

I like these ideas......

Well that is why I am waiting for the vice pres. picks and cabinet promises before I vote. This is a bad year for Presidents. If not there is a campaign for a write in of Jeff Dunhams Walter. I will also consider that a viable solution if the two don't pick others to help with thier weak points.

I thought about that writing in someone, but you know, I don't want to throw away my vote cause one of the two is going to get it, and if I have to pick between them to be president for the next 4 years, I want to at least vote for that man.