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> Where Do You Differ?, A question for Catholics

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post Aug 8 2008, 09:00 PM
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Where do Catholics differ from Christians? I am a Christian, and recently read some disturbing stuff about Catholics, and so I was curious.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:19 PM
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Tells us what you read? Then the differences can be pointed out.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:32 AM
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Catholics ARE Christian.

CHRISTian: One who believes CHRIST is the Savior.

Catholic: One who believes CHRIS is the Savior.

Same thing. Same Bible. Same Message. Different Structure and interpretation.

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post Aug 9 2008, 05:46 AM
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Catholics are a denomination of Christianity, hence all catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are catholics. I think you meant how does the differing practices, rituals etc of Catholics differ to the customs of the Protestants?

On a side note, could you outline what you read about catholics that you found disturbing?

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post Aug 9 2008, 06:41 AM
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Catholics are christian Shias. Yes they are christian, but many "other" christians do not consider them christians for the rituals and practices Catholics do.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:22 AM
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So, what I found disturbing...

Well, a man who had formerly been a Catholic priest claimed that Catholics thought that the pope was Jesus reincarnated.
He also said that the ultimate goal of the leaders of the Catholic church was to sidetrack people from true Christianity by offering something similar, but not quite there.
The man's name was Alberto. I don't know his last name.

I'm not saying I believe this. I've been trying to get a second opinion, and hear it from a Catholic's point of view. I don't know much about Catholocism.

Thank you for any help you can offer!
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 11:22 AM) *
So, what I found disturbing...

Well, a man who had formerly been a Catholic priest claimed that Catholics thought that the pope was Jesus reincarnated.
He also said that the ultimate goal of the leaders of the Catholic church was to sidetrack people from true Christianity by offering something similar, but not quite there.
The man's name was Alberto. I don't know his last name.

I'm not saying I believe this. I've been trying to get a second opinion, and hear it from a Catholic's point of view. I don't know much about Catholocism.

Thank you for any help you can offer!


Jesus reincarnate nah. Do they believe he is the closet person on earth to god, yes.

Everyone was the same holy catholic and apostolic church until around 1050 something then the split. Same roots. Just for some reason the Catholic church is under fire by the other arms of christianity.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(juan @ Aug 9 2008, 10:34 AM) *
QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 11:22 AM) *
So, what I found disturbing...

Well, a man who had formerly been a Catholic priest claimed that Catholics thought that the pope was Jesus reincarnated.
He also said that the ultimate goal of the leaders of the Catholic church was to sidetrack people from true Christianity by offering something similar, but not quite there.
The man's name was Alberto. I don't know his last name.

I'm not saying I believe this. I've been trying to get a second opinion, and hear it from a Catholic's point of view. I don't know much about Catholocism.

Thank you for any help you can offer!


Jesus reincarnate nah. Do they believe he is the closet person on earth to god, yes.

Everyone was the same holy catholic and apostolic church until around 1050 something then the split. Same roots. Just for some reason the Catholic church is under fire by the other arms of christianity.




So where do they get to pray to Mary? The Bible never says to do that.
 
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The Catholic Church in England, No longer swears by the truth of the bible.

From my experience, Catholics rely heavily on intercession.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 11:37 AM) *
QUOTE(juan @ Aug 9 2008, 10:34 AM) *
QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 11:22 AM) *
So, what I found disturbing...

Well, a man who had formerly been a Catholic priest claimed that Catholics thought that the pope was Jesus reincarnated.
He also said that the ultimate goal of the leaders of the Catholic church was to sidetrack people from true Christianity by offering something similar, but not quite there.
The man's name was Alberto. I don't know his last name.

I'm not saying I believe this. I've been trying to get a second opinion, and hear it from a Catholic's point of view. I don't know much about Catholocism.

Thank you for any help you can offer!


Jesus reincarnate nah. Do they believe he is the closet person on earth to god, yes.

Everyone was the same holy catholic and apostolic church until around 1050 something then the split. Same roots. Just for some reason the Catholic church is under fire by the other arms of christianity.




So where do they get to pray to Mary? The Bible never says to do that.



Who prays to Mary? Common misconception. Also they don't pray to saints either.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:54 AM
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It's not a prayer to Mary or the saints is it, it's merely communication for intercession? I think it's the same as humans requesting each other for prayers. It's a petition instead of worship. If this is not the case, then it's wrong as one should only worship God.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:58 AM
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I talked with a Catholic the other day who says they do pray to Mary.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 11:58 AM) *
I talked with a Catholic the other day who says they do pray to Mary.


Really real confused they are. Its like Bin't Zayd said an intercession. That person doesn't understand how to pray proper.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 04:58 PM) *
I talked with a Catholic the other day who says they do pray to Mary.


Some catholics I've come across stated they meant communication to Mary, not worship, even though communication itself is an issue - how could Mary hear every person's request for she is not omnipotent nor omniscient, therefore not God. God alone we seek.

I guess the belief is a personal matter, some say they do pray to Mary, others would state it's merely a communication, a petition for something just in the same manner we request prayers from each other.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:34 PM
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But why? Why ask a dead lady, even if she is seen as holy, for prayer? Yeah, she's in Heaven, but I don't think they trouble with our affairs.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:40 PM
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Its like this. The saints are suppose to be real holy people right. So you will ask them to speak up for you to god since they are closer to god for you in hopes your prayer will be heard. Its hard to explain. Now Mary mother of Jesus was special. How many other women have given while still a virgin?


It seems Bin't Zayd has a good understanding of how it works.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:48 PM
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So how else does Catholicism differ from the rest of Christianity?
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(iLive4Christ @ Aug 9 2008, 02:48 PM) *
So how else does Catholicism differ from the rest of Christianity?


Well my mother is now a Baptist so I will ask her. For I went a different route altogether.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:13 PM
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Catholics are christian Shias. Yes they are christian, but many "other" christians do not consider them christians for the rituals and practices Catholics do.


Don't compare Catholicism to Shi3a Islam..

Ever.

Catholics are the largest Christian group.
And the First Pauline Church.

All Pauline churches(Catholic, Protestant[Lutheran, Baptist etc.] beleive in intercession, Or the concept of the Resurrection would be meaningless.
 
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post Aug 9 2008, 09:20 PM
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Catholics ARE Christian.

CHRISTian: One who believes CHRIST is the Savior.

Catholic: One who believes CHRIS is the Savior.

Same thing. Same Bible. Same Message. Different Structure and interpretation.


Not the same Bible, The Orthodox Bible, The Protestant and the catholic Bible Are VERY Different.

But In the end, Of all the Different versions of the Bible, The Catholic church had the only hand in what became the "New Testament".

See the Lost Gospels(mainly Barnabas, Pauls' Teacher) for more info, I could go with this one.

The Gospel of Barnabas isn't in the bible by the way, even though he unlike Paul was THERE with Isa(RA)
Different Bibles.

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