Why Do Some People Not Believe In God?, Questions for non-believers Options

[bec]

hello everybody i used to be a christian, now this is what i think

Why do some people not believe in God?
for me, its impossible for one to objectively have faith in God. although there is evidence to prove God's existence there is also evidence to disprove God's existence. when i was a christian i had alot of doubts about whether God was real, i felt as if i was praying to something that only existed if i poured my heart and soul into it (ie read scriptures intently etc). if i'm really truthful to myself i think one of the reasons i didn't keep up my faith in God is that it was hard, time consuming and required all my heart and soul which i obviously wasn't prepared to give up.

as time went on i used scientific evidence to help back up my new conscience. i also realised (through my studies of religion class) that all the religions and belief systems out there had their own reasons/evidence to support their faith, and each of them thought they were right and the rest were wrong. eg if there were 1 christian and he/she had to live for say 10years with 5 muslims (or vice versa) under the same and the christian wasn't allowed to take a bible or anything like that, what do u think would happen? i think most people put in that situation would fail at sticking to their faith, though not that all would. how can people say their religion is right over all the other's that say (and with many a reason) that they also are right? i think religion is based on ones interpretation

If you don't believe in God, what do you believe in?
i believe in treating others as u would treat urself. also living out life to the best one can, ie having will power/perservance to achieve what u want to achieve.

Why do you think life is?
i don't have a snazzy answer like a christian or muslim would say, i and i could that question justice until i'm much older

Do you ever wonder what will happen if you die (life after death) ?
i try not to think about it because: there is no evidence as to what happens when one dies (except for the physical disintegration) and i'd rather live in the now.

What makes you deny faith the most?
i don't deny that faith exists, because for some it does, it isn't scientific proof or family tradition that one follows their religion whole heartedly- its faith
for me having faith in myself is easier that having faith in a God that cannot be proven/seen.

[Ducky_Quackers]

Since I have been at this site I have moved from describing myself as agnostic to full fledged atheist.



Why do I not believe?

In the simplest of ways to describe my lack of faith is: the entity of god has not given me a physical hug. When I was just old enough to question the existence of god I remember wondering why god has not graced me with a hug. And I was sad.



What do I believe in?

The closest I can come to finding one entity to believe in is called humanity.



What do I think life is?

Life is living. I really do not tend to think about where it came from because it is here. I do not tend to care why it is here because it just ‘is’. I have no idea what I could do with the information if I had it.



What do I think will happen to myself after death?

To my knowledge I think that I will be dead. Physically my body will be dead, mentally I won’t be aware of myself, and since I do not believe in a god I can’t say that I have a spirit to speak of. But what little contributions I gave to humanity while I was alive gives me immortality in a way that is difficult to quantify. “I hope I helped” will probably be my last thought.



What makes me deny faith?

The hug thing.



Why am I atheist?

Here is the deal: I choose not to be a part of something that I can not understand fully. Whether God exists is of no importance to me at the present. The only consequences that I can see are that people are apt to judge me for a lack of faith. I also do not see what I could gain as a direct result of believing in something sentient that has not the time to deal with me directly in a way that quantifies its existence without a doubt. The hug thing. If I am wrong, which I have yet to see, believe you me, I will be “truly sorry” and have no problem “begging for forgiveness” and if what people say about life after death, it will be a concrete experience and I might finally get a hug from a being not of this world. Maybe not something inherently good, but eh xD I like hugs.

[MuslimMusician]

To the Atheists/Agnistics:

Thank you for your honest answers. It's cool that you can rationalize and defend your beliefs. That's more than I can say of most people with some sort of religious conviction..

This post has been edited by MuslimMusician: May 12 2009, 12:56 AM

[from the wind]

Chailvr you aren't alone (well i say i am agnostic with atheist tendencies but for this thread i would qualify as an atheist).

I am a muslim but the reason that people do not believe in God is quite simple.

God is not perceived with the 5 senses and a lot of people are not brought up in a religious environment and nor have they ever seriously bothered to try and contemplate on how they came to exist and what their purpose in this world is.

Anybody who does contemplate on their existence and concludes that there is no guarantee that there was an intelligent creator at work simply has a very different mindset from most people who do agree that there must be a God even if they do not necessarily subscribe to a particular religion due to their belief that all religions are historically a mechanism for people to control masses to do what they want.

Sorry but i think you are an *** based on this post.

1. Sensory perception is only part of the argument for some people. I think things like disaster, rationality, and logic are other factors. For this see my posts in other threads where arguments for and against this are made on both sides (especially my logic table thread).

2. My mother is Lutheran (I was brought up Lutheran) (Lutheran is a branch of Christianity) my father was Muslim. I was brought up with religion but I don't believe it now. Actually I think this also provides a point for atheists in that hwo can God be just is only Christians go to heaven but they are brought up some place wither never exposed i.e. Native America (I mean before 1492) or some part of Africa now or in a place that is strongly pious for another religion?

3. I am a philosophy major and have read/studied/thought about/and argued about existentialism more than you I guarantee it. For an example of this once again go to the other thread. But I promise you I have questioned existence etc. more than you as have philosophers that are atheists, Nietzsche etc. to say the least.

4. Sure a different mindset in that we think that there is a logical explanation for existence and as I have argued a logical explanation for no God. But I don't think it is necessarily the mindset I think it is the lack of blind obedience (as faith is blind belief hence the term faith).

5. I think that control/wealth etc. are arguments to show that religion could be fraudulent or at the least that current religion is corrupt.

You have some pretty logic based points so I won't ask you to find the truth through faith or spirit. However, a great philosopher stated "It is far more sound in judgement to believe in God, because if you are right you will recieve all the rewards of believing, but if you say there is no God and are wrong you will recieve the torture for unbelief." But even if you are right about there being no God the best case scenario is that nothing happens. Seems pretty logical.
My point is that you are better off believing than not, because unless you understand faith (granted that there are many corrupt spiritual leaders) you won't know.

[murkylight]

Humans have needs, including the need to feel a sense of peace, connectedness to something vaster than the single self and hope for some continuity of life. Some find that in that harmony and beauty of nature. Some find that in the world of art. Some find that in the study of atoms and molecules. And some find it through religious devotion and belief. They are all wonderful avenues for people to seek those qualities. It just depends on what fits for the individual, what they have been taught is real and what calls to you as far as I can see.

This post has been edited by murkylight: May 23 2009, 05:05 PM

[jzere]

@from the wind-However, a great philosopher stated "It is far more sound in judgement to believe in God, because if you are right you will recieve all the rewards of believing, but if you say there is no God and are wrong you will recieve the torture for unbelief."




Which god should one believe in to be spared the torture for unbelief?


tc.

wish u joy. :-)

[from the wind]

@from the wind-However, a great philosopher stated "It is far more sound in judgement to believe in God, because if you are right you will recieve all the rewards of believing, but if you say there is no God and are wrong you will recieve the torture for unbelief."




Which god should one believe in to be spared the torture for unbelief?


tc.

wish u joy. :-)

Both Islam and Christianity teach that there is only one God. I am a Christian and I will tell you that you should go to the only God (of course) this is the God of Abraham. I know that there are many other religious ideas in the world, but there are many spiritual flaws in them. Also the different ideas of these many religious groups are not proven from history as the God of Abraham the one true God has both geological and chronilogical proofs. But most religious beliefs outside of the faith teach of a (atleast) temporary torture.

This post has been edited by from the wind: May 29 2009, 08:49 AM

[jzere]

i guess most people don't endorse others' gods, so the question remains open.




tc.

wish u joy. :-)

[Dardun]

I didn't read all of the posts, but this is my opinion, and i don't believe in any sort of religion.

Why do some people not believe in God?

Why would we? we don't know a God, never seem him, never heard of him. Why is it so important to 'believe'? If he exists and we may go to heaven, it would be awesome to meet him. But since i'm not dead yet, I can't say he exists, and i don't actually care, because it doens't help me to get up with a smile every morning.

If you don't believe in God, what do you believe in?

The amusement of life, exploring the world, making friends, sex..

Why do you think life is?

Why? i don't know, no one knows for certain. It's only written in books that are thousands of years old and thats not quite a proof for me. As far as i know and have seen, life is about taking care of your family, friends, etc. And making yourself as an individual happy with what you've done in your life.
I don't want to offend anyone with my answers though.

Do you ever wonder what will happen if you die (life after death) ?

Nope, you die, and what happens then happens. No one knows for certain if you haven't died.. I wish i could make a phonecall to heaven. I hope i can get another life

What is the main reason of why you do not believe in God?

I don't need a religion to be happy and live my life. I can fix things myself instead of praying and waiting for something to happen. And i don't like the term 'God'. I'm sounding a bit rude maybe but he must be damn selfish to create something and shooting hurricanes, tsunami's etc at us.

What makes you deny faith the most?

I won't deny faith. I wish i could believe in something. But i refuse to believe in stories that are written thousands of years ago by people who had the brain of a wallnut. I just want to be happy, make others happy, without having the obligation of praying every day, wearing special clothes that (sorry for believers) look really funny. By saying that i just mean that the kepi, or the burka, or anything in that sort really look old-fashioned. And i know it's a believe and as i said i don't want to offend anyone.

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Nog a question for you guys,
Can you understand my opinion? And wouldn't you be able to live like that? I think that IF there's a god he just wants us to be happy instead of making us look like people from 2000years ago. And why would he want you to pray? Does he need that much confidence?

I would love to read the reply's.

This post has been edited by Dardun: Jun 9 2012, 09:36 AM

[rony4]

hy darud here is your some answer
you said

Why do some people not believe in God?

Why would we? we don't know a God, never seem him, never heard of him. Why is it so important to 'believe'? If he exists and we may go to heaven, it would be awesome to meet him. But since i'm not dead yet, I can't say he exists, and i don't actually care, because it doens't help me to get up with a smile every morning.

actually there is one god of this universe. my question to you is if you ever believe in any god. if not than i have to say you that there must have a creator in this world. without creator a world of such dimension can not be created. so the the argument of no god is meaningless.
ok then we find that there may have one or two god behind this creation of universe. but by logic we can prove that only one god can remain at a same time. otherwise conflict between god will happen, then you can find that sun and moon is going out of there orbit, sun is coming to close to earth to flesh everything. but this type of thing may happen if two or three gods exists at a time.

then we found that there is a god and the god ius only one.
and from the existing religious book we find that allah is the main god and others are vo0gous . you may ask me how i find this. my answer is bring all the religious book of different religioon such as bibel quran etc. then we find that the most logical book is quran. because in quran there is no words without scientific reason. every sentence of a quran is in accordance with the scientific thought. you can not show me any sentence wich is contrary to any scientific thought. but in bibel and other religious book there is number of baseless and unscientifc claim which can be refuited very easily. there is a peace tv in the setellite channel where dr jakir naik shows dozens of baseless and unscientific claim of bibel. you can see this channel by your own eyes.

This post has been edited by rony4: Jun 9 2012, 01:19 PM

[rony4]

If you don't believe in God, what do you believe in?

The amusement of life, exploring the world, making friends, sex..

actually this world is not a place of playing . ya but you can still play here. because allah send us to test ourself. you will get such type of rewards which you deserves, which you did in the earth. you can play here but one most dangerous thing is everyone must have to die. allah says that every living being must have to embrace the test of death. do you know what happend after your death. certainly not . and this obviously a sad thing to you. and any one dont wqant to discover the vital thing after death when he has nothing to do for himself. so we muslim always try to find what happend after death and do accordingly in this world. if any one play in this world with religion then he will enter into hell fire. everything in this universes like sun,moon plannet, sky are following certain rule.

This post has been edited by rony4: Jun 9 2012, 01:20 PM

[rony4]

Why do you think life is?

Why? i don't know, no one knows for certain. It's only written in books that are thousands of years old and thats not quite a proof for me. As far as i know and have seen, life is about taking care of your family, friends, etc. And making yourself as an individual happy with what you've done in your life.
I don't want to offend anyone with my answers though.

in your views life is such type. but in my views life is nothing but a few years alive. in that time man have to face many problem disease. and more pathetic thing at last they have to die. after they died there body rotten and create bad smell. ha ha then he has nothing to do for himself. after died people find the truth but he who do not believe in allah will be thrown to hell within a moment . so i think it is a smart work to find out who is our god and do according to his command rather then finding him after death. because there will nothing to do for us in that situation to go to hell

[Dardun]

actually this world is not a place of playing . ya but you can still play here. because allah send us to test ourself. you will get such type of rewards which you deserves, which you did in the earth. you can play here but one most dangerous thing is everyone must have to die. allah says that every living being must have to embrace the test of death. do you know what happend after your death. certainly not . and this obviously a sad thing to you. and any one dont wqant to discover the vital thing after death when he has nothing to do for himself. so we muslim always try to find what happend after death and do accordingly in this world. if any one play in this world with religion then he will enter into hell fire. everything in this universes like sun,moon plannet, sky are following certain rule.

Thanks for your reply.
But why can't you? Allah never came to me te say that i couldn't.. I only red this in a book which is made a long time a go.. Why would he send me to hell? Just because i had fun and didn't pray? To me that looks really ridiculous... Heaven and Hell are described in books. If i write a book tomorrow which tells that every living creature shouldn't wear any pants because it hurts god, maybe the future people will do so because they think that's a religion. I just can't understand why you are trowing an important (to me) part just in case there might be a heaven and hell (which by now would be way overpopulated). Maybe you'll understand it if you die and don't go to a 'heaven' or 'hell'. And if so, i would be very amazed and could finally accept al of this religion things. But before that moment, i live day by day, won't think about whats there after you die, because you can not know. And a book and stories are not good sources for me to believe in. On the other hand religion is good for people who lost someone, who had major difficulties in their lives etc. They really can get stronger of it. But you'll never see me doing that



This post has been edited by Dardun: Jun 10 2012, 09:53 AM

[ashequemahmud]

Peace

Questions for non-believers,

Why do some people not believe in God?
If you don't believe in God, what do you believe in?
Why do you think life is?
Do you ever wonder what will happen if you die (life after death) ?
What is the main reason of why you do not believe in God?
What makes you deny faith the most?

I am answering all your questions in a quote. Before answering some a fault in your question. Not some people but a lot of people around the world do not believe in God. And most of them are highly qualified and educated.
Now the only reason: You Muslims are a failure nation. You are actually the slave of the Christians and acting as they let you to act. You have failed to establish Islam (which means peace) in the world, even in your countries. If you were the leader and authority of the world only then you could prove the beauty, light (Nur) of God and then they must realize. But the real is that Dajjal is already captured his sovereignty all over the world and now you must have to find out the true Islam, the true nation (ferkah) based on that true Islam ho have the symbol(Miracle or Mojeja) of being true.