What Is The Right Age To Get Married, marriage Options

U should consider that we live in a different era & 9 yr old gals nowadays r super immature :s lol even 17 is still young lol
anywho, when mr.perfect is there then it's the right time

Individual shortcomings, don't change the fiqh. Mr. Perfect ain't in existence. Hmm wrote something a few days ago about this, if I find it I'll share it.

I think you'll find we DID understand his point, if anything it's not his alone, it's shared by the hardcore desi masses/and others it's just simply not justified nor reasonable.

women can and should get married earlier than their male counterparts. They age faster, the requirements of marriage are less for them, and its better to be married.

very simple yet very true reasons...and remember in islam, Divorce is always an option.

Who disagreed with that? It seemed as though (to put it bluntly) Respecta was going on about how women should get married at 13 because otherwise if they get pregnant, they wont be able to hide it unlike the man who impregnates her...
And as iamcrazy said..divorce is makrooh. It's the least liked act out of all the things Allah has made halal for us.

The answer is in the life of our Holy Prophet. Lets ask ourselves at what age did he get married and at what age did he give his daughters out for marriage. That is how i beleive we can get most of our queries answered.

Not just him though, those marriages around him he approved of. The ages of his wives, and the ages of those close around him when they got married.

Now we're talking fiqh

You're comparing women and men in those times to women and men here. Even you should know, the laws of fiqh will change slightly when the people change, to accommodate for everyone. The issue of Niqab is one example.

U should consider that we live in a different era & 9 yr old gals nowadays r super immature :s lol even 17 is still young lol
anywho, when mr.perfect is there then it's the right time

Individual shortcomings, don't change the fiqh. Mr. Perfect ain't in existence. Hmm wrote something a few days ago about this, if I find it I'll share it.

I absolutely agree, individual shortcomings do not change the fiqh. I agree, a woman sould get married young, so should a man...when they are emotionally and physically mature (not to mention, the guy should be able to provide for the woman). And no one around here argued with that in the first place, so you're really just preaching to the choir.

I think you'll find we DID understand his point, if anything it's not his alone, it's shared by the hardcore desi masses/and others it's just simply not justified nor reasonable.

women can and should get married earlier than their male counterparts. They age faster, the requirements of marriage are less for them, and its better to be married.

very simple yet very true reasons...and remember in islam, Divorce is always an option.

Who disagreed with that? It seemed as though (to put it bluntly) Respecta was going on about how women should get married at 13 because otherwise if they get pregnant, they wont be able to hide it unlike the man who impregnates her...
And as iamcrazy said..divorce is makrooh. It's the least liked act out of all the things Allah has made halal for us.

The answer is in the life of our Holy Prophet. Lets ask ourselves at what age did he get married and at what age did he give his daughters out for marriage. That is how i beleive we can get most of our queries answered.

Not just him though, those marriages around him he approved of. The ages of his wives, and the ages of those close around him when they got married.

Now we're talking fiqh

You're comparing women and men in those times to women and men here. Even you should know, the laws of fiqh will change slightly when the people change, to accommodate for everyone. The issue of Niqab is one example.

U should consider that we live in a different era & 9 yr old gals nowadays r super immature :s lol even 17 is still young lol
anywho, when mr.perfect is there then it's the right time

Individual shortcomings, don't change the fiqh. Mr. Perfect ain't in existence. Hmm wrote something a few days ago about this, if I find it I'll share it.

I absolutely agree, individual shortcomings do not change the fiqh. I agree, a woman sould get married young, so should a man...when they are emotionally and physically mature (not to mention, the guy should be able to provide for the woman). And no one around here argued with that in the first place, so you're really just preaching to the choir.

Um...fiqh doesn't change...the reasoning behind fatwa change but the fiqh doesnt. If we changed the laws every few years we'd be riding a big bid'a boat in a big bid'a ocean heading to a big bid'a whirpool swirling right down into jahanam.


Men should be married young too, but before that they should be able to provide which for most means they shouldn't get married too young, or as young as women do. Every choir has a preacher, and every choir sits and listens while he preaches, how else would they know what to sing about?

Now if your practices change based upon what you KNOW of the fiqh, then thats different, just know that the quran has been preserved, as have its practices, and the scholarly opinions on its issues dating back to the prophet. We should all make a note to not confuse fiqh with sharia.

I guess I may be one of the few that understood brother Umars first few posts, but as he conceded so shall I, but as expected from the ice queen, this was interesting.
(the 'even you should no' made even this cold brother shiver)

hmmm maybe I should give an an example too...
Fiqh doesnt change, but it expands. Unlike sharia its not so much based on scholarly opinion as it is the quran and the sunnah, UNDERSTANDING issues plays a big part in it though.

1st example, Cigarettes.
It was though to be DISLIKED, but when the scholars understood it was poisonous, it became FORBIDDEN.

2nd example, Firearms.
They were considered forbidden, until they became the new face of warfare in which they became allowed.

etc etc

The niqab issue is an issue of scholarly disagreement. Though none can argue(based on fiqh) that it shouldn't at least be recommended...

I still don't get what you're trying to prove. I never said women and men should get married at the same age..I do believe that women ought to get married at an earlier age than men precisely due to the reason you stated. I didn't agree with the way Respecta used women getting pregnant due to pre-maritial relations as a general reason to get married earlier. (at the age of 13 for eg) I didn't agree with his complete disregard for the man who contributed to her pregnancy.

The Niqab issue: Imam Abu Hanifa A typical presentation of the rules of dress (including hijab) based on the traditional sources of Hanafi fiqh can be found at: Regulations of Clothing. It is clear from reading this that the position of the Hanafi madhhab is that niqab is mustahabb(according to some scholars, wajib in times of fitna) but not fard.




Do you see how the ruling changed from mustahabb to waajib (which is quite a difference) because people and times have changed? That's what I meant by the laws changing slightly..(maybe I should have used a better word than change, but that was my own shortcoming.) Obviously, I didn't mean drastic changes. This sentence of yours:

Unlike sharia its not so much based on scholarly opinion as it is the quran and the sunnah, UNDERSTANDING issues plays a big part in it though.

Are you saying that Shariah is based on scholarly opinion whereas Fiqh is based more on the Quran and Hadith? Or have I understood that wrong? =/
Because I always thought Fiqh to comprise more on Ijma' and Qiyas...and Shariah (Islamic law/divine law) to be based more on Quran and Hadith..

But if you agree with what I just said there..that would mean that it is possible for fiqh to change whereas Shariah is concrete..

This post has been edited by blessing: Aug 3 2009, 03:14 PM

hmm, the fiqh is one of the basis of the sharia. Fiqh is the text book sharia i sth eimplemention of the law.

Fiqh doesn't change, because its not scholarly opinion, its scholarly understanding. It expands to include more issues, or condenses when issues its absorbed are found to be the same as past issues.

Like abortion. Some of us here would think its new, as did some scholars when it was legalized in america. And they formulated new opinions on it. But as we look into fiqh, its not new as it was a practice of pagans during the time of the prophet(SAWS). And though some circumstances have changed the root issue is the same.

Same with the cigarettes, the ruling didnt change, the scholars just came to an understanding that "oh this thing kills people" so therefore because killing yourself is forbidden, it became forbidden. It use just be that thing that smells bad so you should smoke and go to the masjid etc.(and yet people still go to the masjid and even eat in the masjid with things made from onions and other foul smelling things )

Scholarly opinions are inherited, they were inherited from the prophet(SAWS) until the time of the salaf, now they're inherited from them.

Its in this manner islamic law is never corrupted. The hearts of men never change after all...

The implementation of the shariah depends on the person in the lack of Muslim governance, etc etc. but thats a completely different issue

We always have the source of all rulings in the sunnah, and the source of all imploications and interpretations in the salaf.

salamalaykum

i got married when i was 3

This isn't the silly/ramble area Maj, keep up.

hahaha, before I went serious I wanted to post "the best age is when you are conceived"

And yet you still managed to post it.

Can we get back on track please people.

And yet you still managed to post it.

Can we get back on track please people.

Silly Billy is the right age to marry! So I hear.

13 for girls, guys whenever, young though

lolll is that what you really think or were you just joking 13 wow !!!

i got married when i was 3

youre even crazier loll 3

i still think that it is 18 though i dont think that ur life ends when u get married i think that its the new start a new begging u could say i think nowadays people are scared to get married they think that their freedom will be snatched away from them but this isnt true at all, it all depends on the person i think that im mature enough mashallah
it was really interesting reading your thoughts it just goes to show how differently everyone thinks

And yet you still managed to post it.

Can we get back on track please people.

Silly Billy is the right age to marry! So I hear.

was that an offer?

Oh I see whats going on, we're growing on you eh juan?

This post has been edited by Al-Din'As-Darfur: Aug 6 2009, 03:08 PM

And yet you still managed to post it.

Can we get back on track please people.

Silly Billy is the right age to marry! So I hear.

was that an offer?

Oh I see whats going on, we're growing on you eh juan?

Ok back to the seriousness of the thread.


13 for a dude? Can't even get an after school job till 15, so how would he supprt a wife?

Actually I think you can do paper rounds over here in the UK at 13..so technically, he could support his wife on the 10 pounds (or however much) a week he gets..lol!!

Actually I think you can do paper rounds over here in the UK at 13..so technically, he could support his wife on the 10 pounds (or however much) a week he gets..lol!!

in order for guys to live productive lives they need an earth shattering event that leads them to pursue a lifelong goal, if that happens at 13, then heck yeah!
they can live in a shed, while he pursues a career as a mercenary seeking to find a better life for his children!

Who knew Wali would butcher the idea? Me!

Now, any silly posts after this will be deleted.

U should consider that we live in a different era & 9 yr old gals nowadays r super immature :s lol even 17 is still young lol
anywho, when mr.perfect is there then it's the right time

Teehee .........Oh im 17 n thats interesting. Hmm...am i a kid?

This post has been edited by Miss JJ: Aug 24 2009, 10:42 AM

Now, any silly posts after this will be deleted.

Can we remember this please people.

Uh huh. Ok SB (i didn't properly read this thread so i didnt see Saira's post)*


I say anytime in your 20s.

This post has been edited by Miss JJ: Aug 27 2009, 10:12 AM