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i was just wondering... if we belive in all of the Prophets
and we celebrate Prophet MUHAMMAD pbuh.gif Birthday
why don't we celebrate the birth of Prophet Jesus?
He is our Prophet after all?? wacko.gif
Al-Din'As-Darfur
Well for one, Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of December....

blame the Romans....

secondly we don't celebrate on rasoolallah's(SAWS) birthday.

Some remember him and use that to submit to ALLAH(SWT) better.
Remember he didn't celebrate his own Brita....

That's something we should keep in mind...

Christmas is superficial, and is the day Christians celebrate the day god came to earth...

Its tainted with paganism....#1 the roman intervention moving it to the winter solstice...

#2 the whole Jesus is god thing...

#3 capitalism...

Muslims have our set holy days....

hcfollower
I don't know about you, but I live in the USA and I do. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter...
Al-Din'As-Darfur
QUOTE(chailvr @ Aug 15 2007, 02:34 AM) *
QUOTE(Al-Din'As-Darfur @ Aug 14 2007, 10:43 PM) *
Well for one, Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of December....

blame the Romans....

secondly we don't celebrate on rasoolallah's(SAWS) birthday.

Some remember him and use that to submit to ALLAH(SWT) better.
Remember he didn't celebrate his own Brita....

That's something we should keep in mind...

Christmas is superficial, and is the day Christians celebrate the day god came to earth...

Its tainted with paganism....#1 the roman intervention moving it to the winter solstice...

#2 the whole Jesus is god thing...

#3 capitalism...

Muslims have our set holy days....


CHristianity has nothing to do with capitalism. If anything, its closer to socialism stemming from what Jesus said on treating the poor and not being greedy etc. There is a whole sect of that belief that call themselves Christian Socialists or if they belive in a communist gov. Christian Communists

Ahem

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS!

not chrstians....shesh....
Al-Din'As-Darfur
QUOTE(hcfollower @ Aug 15 2007, 01:36 AM) *
I don't know about you, but I live in the USA and I do. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter...

Are you muslim?

If you are muslim this is very grave indeed.

Easter celebrates a resurrection, after a death that we do not believe happened.

Thanksgiving, its story is a lie in itself.

And I already gave reasons for Christmas.
Al-Din'As-Darfur
QUOTE(chailvr @ Aug 15 2007, 12:49 PM) *
the same would still apply. Its not part of the faith and therefore not part of their religious holiday. The principle is giving not capitalizing on gains.


Whats wrong with MO and syntax???

Christmas, the American way is not about Jesus, Its not even on his real birthday.

Its either about giving, buying, and capitalizing on the giving and buying.
tabassam
QUOTE(@i$h@ @ Aug 14 2007, 10:28 PM) *
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i was just wondering... if we belive in all of the Prophets
and we celebrate Prophet MUHAMMAD pbuh Birthday
why don't we celebrate the birth of Prophet Jesus?
He is our Prophet after all?? wacko.gif


One thing please confirm, giveme one name of a Sahabah who celebrated the prophet's pbuh.gif bday, tell me one thing more than half the people that celebrate this need to ask themselves if they are such lovers of the Prophet pbuh.gif why is it we hardly see any of his Sunnats in their lives....
iamcrazy
Its a difference in opinion guest.
Quenched
This question intrigues me. Happy Christmas to all who celebrate it.

chailvr, I'm not sure a Christian can be a proper Marxist due to Marxism deep-rooted atheism. However, some socialist ideals have certainly crept in to modern Liberation Theology (look it up, really not that interesting)
Simba
Ive said this before and ill say it again:

CHRISTMAS WAS NOT JESUS'S BIRTHDAY. Its not even close. it used to be a pagan holiday in Eastern Europe and after a massive amount of people converted they also wanted to keep their holidays so they made Dec 25 Christmas. Read the wikipedia article for more info.

Jesus was born more around March 25.

Chistmas being Jesus's birthday is one of the biggest myths in society. Its not really a religious holiday but it was turned into one. The true Christian holiday is Easter, celebrating Jesus's ressurection, and Lent, the 40 days before Easter.
Simba
I think the Christian interpretation of Jesus makes him socialist. Love thy enemy, share, etc.
kellyjaz
It doesn’t matter whether it was his birthday or not, what matters is what the actual day represents, and it is the closest to his birthday. There were some research and calculation done and then the date was set.

And for a while the puritans banned Christmas, so many of the traditions carried out on Christmas day was forgotten and then later brought back…

The prophet Muhammad pbuh did not celebrate Jesus pbuh birthday nor did he tell us to do so. Some Muslims celebrate the birth of Muhammad but it is haram. Although we regard Jesus pbuh highly we do not celebrate his birthday b/c Allah sent many messengers and we are to love them equally, if we celebrate one prophets birthday what about the rest? And what is the significance of such celebration.


Simba
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It doesn’t matter whether it was his birthday or not, what matters is what the actual day represents, and it is the closest to his birthday. There were some research and calculation done and then the date was set.

Read the article i linked to on the history of Christmas. most Christian scholars will not deny that Christmas was based on a pagan holiday. its nowhere near his birthday.
kellyjaz
Source: Wikipedia says it all.
Al-Din'As-Darfur
QUOTE(kellyjaz @ Dec 14 2007, 05:26 AM) *
Source: Wikipedia says it all.


http://www.thercg.org/books/ttooc.html
Quenched
ADAD,

That site is a pseduocult, you might want to get your understanding of mainstream Christian thought elsewhere. smile.gif

Christmas day is not special because Jesus was born on that day (he was not), it is special because on that day, we celebrate the birth of Jesus and His Incarnation.
Al-Din'As-Darfur
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That site is a pseduocult, you might want to get your understanding of mainstream Christian thought elsewhere. smile.gif

Christmas day is not special because Jesus was born on that day (he was not), it is special because on that day, we celebrate the birth of Jesus and His Incarnation.


Translation: Christmas is biddah for Christians.
Why choose a day when people prayed to Idols?

That site was made by a Christian(Church of God), who felt that they shouldn't even celebrate this day of the "SUN".

They gave a pretty nice argument too....

They stayed away from the politics of sectarianism, and used a straightforward argument using the bible.
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