The Tablighi Thread

So this thread is for KeeKee?

lol yep

JazakAllah khairan Umar! D

well, i recently started a blog dedicated to Tablighi Jamaat, feel free to read through:
http://engagersindawah.blogspot.com

Will post links etc when i can i.a
anyone have any Q's, feel free to ask-

Hey respecta, been to London Markaz l8ly? Met any Tablighi brothers? My dads going 40 days end of April, half the chillah around Europe and the other half locally. 15 days with the other great hadharaats too^^

sure keeks will check it out.
when i was in Delhi i was at the Markaz for a day and the amount of women that were there for 40 days/ 4 months was just amazing. there was like a small group doing Taleem in Farsi, then the other doing it in Malay and the biggest group doing it in Urdu.
They were reading from this kitaab called "Muntakhab Ahadith" which is really good Mashallah. bought one from there too. But the woman was telling me to go 40 days i was like "i aint even been 3 days man" and shes like " well sit here with the intention of Jamaat and at the end you can say you have been for Jamaat even if it was for a day". She was so sweet bless her.

ah you went to Nizamuddin Markaz? you lucky thing

my dad was there last year for the Ijtima...with other hadharaats.

Islam & Women; the case of Tablighi Jamaat:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/SHR/5-1/text/metcalf.html

erm, Respecta, if you could change the title to 'Tablighi Jamaat?' thanks in advance.

Some info on Tabligh
http://www.islam.co.za/tabligh1.html

yup Nizamuddin Markaz and Keeks i really remembered you there hehe. Jazakallah for the link;)
went to Maulana Muhammed Ilyas's mosque too and prayed Maghrib Namaz there. had to rush after because the Hafiz class started.

awww bless stripes, thats so sweet!
you lucky thing...my sis went chillah to India last year, she was in Nizamuddin and heard Maulana Zubairs Muzaakara, and also met Maulana Zakaria Kandehlwis family members, and Maulana Inamul Hasans too, inshAllah i can do that one day too.

aww Inshallah!
yeh all the Ulama had gone somewhere so my dad didnt get to meet them. But he met a few in Deoband.
wow man your sis is so lucky Mashallah. Inshallah we get to go one day eh.

ermm ye i been to the markaz..every thursday they have something going on there...

whats this they building a mega mosque?
know anything about it, it's gonna be in my area and i know nothing about it !

so how many days hav u spent sister??
cos i need help in learning 6 points in URDU...father's makin us learn it in english and urdu...so we cud say it out aloud in the jamaat (inshAllah)

i can learn it better in Urdu. The jamaat in Delhi recommended a kitaab to us written by Maulana Muhammed Ilyas about the 6 points etc. will post the kitaab name Inshallah later

i'v been for 3 days a few times, and 10 days a couple of times.
i Know my six points in urdu and english,it's quite easy to learn actually, just needs some dedication.
i have a couple books on it too, will check the names asap inshAllah.

Note: six points don't have to be long and full of stories etc. the best is to keep it short and simple (its what the ulama recommend) but with some pointers that are interesting and thought consuming. don't attempt to learn it word by word from a book, stick to your own words and don't make it TOO formal as well.

6 points ?

Yes the six points of Tabligh.

Six points is not like the 5pillars of Islam, which of course every Muslim believes in.
The six points of Tabligh are merely actions etc that a Muslim should bring into his/her life.

will post details later.

Hmm...wouldn't that be Bid'ah to introduce 6 points into one's Deen? Ain't the Qur'an and Sunnah of our Beloved Messenger Muhammad (SAWW) enough?

awwh jzk!! sisturr

my bro has a book called "manual tabligh" or somfin it has all of the six points der put not urdu..

of course its not bid'ah
and of course the Quran and Sunnah is enough; the pointers of the six points of Tabligh come from the Sunnah after all

The six points:
Kalima/Iman: Our belief should be firm that 'there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger. Basically meaning we should not commit shirk and that we should follow Islam according to the Quran and Sunnah.

Salah: we should establish Salah as it is one of the 5 pillars of Islam.

Ilm and Dhikr: To gain knowledge is Fardh in Islam.We should gain knowledge and learn all about Islam, the do's and don'ts etc. We should do Dhikr so that Allah comes to our mind before every act.

Ikraam Al-Muslim: It means honoring our Muslim brothers and sisters. W e should respect our Muslim brothers and sisters and treat them well.

Ikhlaas: It is our sincerity towards Allah. Whatever we do should be only to please Allah.

Da'wah & Tabligh: It is our duty to invite and convey and teach Islam to people in the World. Just as the prophets were sent to mankind, and just as the sahabas, for example hadhrat Mus'ab Bin Umair were sent to new Muslim tribes to teach Islam by the Prophet, we should also teach Islam.

Those are the six points,(very breifly summarised) nothing to do with Bid'ah in them eh?

how do americans say it?

own3d ?

Now now Umar, don't be childish

Answering objections against Fadhail-e-Aamaal
http://www28.brinkster.com/mushrf/070104/TFAZAIM.html

Assalamu 'Alaikum,

I'm not really into 'Tableegh' but I did visit the centre of the 'Tableeghi Da'wah' in Bangladesh; the Kakrail Masjid (Dhaka), and I've got to say it was masha'Allah really good to see so many people, from many different backgrounds set out with the intention to call people to Islaam.

MashAllah-

Yeah the Ijtemas are held in many different places annually, in Bangladesh, In India at Nizamuddin, in Dewsbury here in the UK, in America...etc

Bangladesh!

And heres me thinking Bangladesh is full of good-for-nothing people.

i found the title of the 6 points Kitaab:
"Che number ki mehnat" (hope i typed it right)
by: Hadhrat Maulana Muhammed Ilyas

The explanation is just fantastic

Interesting sister i didnt know that Jazakallah Khayraan

hmm...are there Ijtimaa' in Pakistan? Insha'Allah when I go with my family next year or this summer lolz.

This thread is wicked!Just goes to show the haters including some of my family members

aww Jazakillah-

yeah i know precious, i have some cousins who are h8ers too. and whats funny is that their own sons have turned to Tabligh and become practising because of it.

Hey Malikah, i think the Ijtema was already done this year!
There will be Ijtemas for the Uk'ers with shaikhs coming over from other countries later on in the summer here inshAllah though.

lol blessing, theres alot of Tablighi Kaam in Dhaka and Sylhet, my dad s been there a couple times in Jamaat.

http://sabil.wordpress.com/

Jazakallah Keeks! lol very beneficial Masha'Allah

Talbligh all da waaaaay

I wants to go three days again

I fink people hate on jamaatis because of the door to door thing, they can't handle being given a short lecture, which after a long day in the modern world, is something little you need, even then you need to do more stuff (recitation of qur'an etc)

Another thing is they can't pluck up the courage to give out some time in their lives away from the world and their desires and spend time in the house of Allah where there is an environment being blessed with Allah's mercy.

and there are also things because of their beliefs/sect etc.

but for tabligh haters, this work has done so much good and has brought back so many people to the way of Islam its just amazing.

I told one jamaati elder (durin my three days) about how some sunnah only kids started saying tabligh jamaat is biddah because of staying at the masjid.

He said:

The thing about goin to jamaat is you make intention of doing istikara, and you never really spend more than three days at one masjid, you would go to other masjids.

This work was done by the sahaba (r.a) and the Nabi (s.a.w) which is inviting others to islaam. Be they muslims or non-muslims, although this (talblighi work) is mainly aimed at helping muslims - because it's worse to lose a muslim and have them leave islam than a non-muslim not converting, and many of you know and agree on the consequences of leaving this blessed religion.

So in no way is inviting others to islam a form of bidah, as this is the responsibility of the muslim ummah, which makes us so unique from past nations.

Another thing might I add is that being in such an environment, your imaan constantly increases, and thusly brings the desire in you to do more ibaadah, which is such a thing in our time of fitnaah that is needed to be done - to have some time away from the world and have a "break" might I say and re-energize ourselves.

well hope this is helpful

wonderful post * up*

Bismillah,

I have found that the 'Tableeghi Jama'at' is one of thise groups who are striving in the path of Allah (swt), putting in extortionate amounts of effort in giving da'wah and spreading the deen of Allah (swt). They have this certain attitude of humility and selflessness that is not found in many others and have influence like no otehr daa'iyaa have & no doubt they are good people with good intentions.

I have one small issue, and I hope someone can clear this up for me insha'Allah. You know this concept of like assigning a certain time period e.g. 3 days, 40 days etc, I mean what is the reasoning behind this and is there like some sort shar'i evidence to back it up?

Jazakumullah Kharain.

yeah, bro, mind if i get back to you on that later? need to get my material and form it into a reply lol, inshAallah.

^ yh kl no probs , take your time.

regards Chillah (going out for 40 days) heres something:

The Reality of Chillah

Q: The people engaged in Tabligh stress the importance of going out for a Chillah. What is reality of chillah on basis of which these people make such recommendations?

A: Spending a Chillah (i.e 40 continuous days) doing a good deed is indeed a very blessed act which strongly affects ones soul and inner state. Sayyidina Musa was given the Torah after he secluded himself or forty days on Mount Tur.

The honourable Sufi's (the true sufi's on the right path) too arrange Chillahs.
In one Hadith the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him said:
" Whoever offers for 40 days the prayer with congregation, without missing the first takbir shall be redeemed from the Fire as well as from hypocrisy , provided he did so for the sake of Allah.
(Tirmidhi 1/33, Mishkaat page 102)

From this we learn that Chillah affects a persons state in a certain manner. See when a mans seed finds its way into a womans womb and settles there, then during the first forty days the 'Alaqah' turns into 'Mudhghah' (i.e the lump of flesh). Then after forty days some parts of this 'Mudhghah' is developed into bones, and then these bones are covered with flesh. Then (after these three stages in forty days) life and spirit are blown into this lump of flesh and bones.
(Bayanul Qur'an)

Once during the Caliphate of Sayyidina Umar a man became madly infatuated with a woman. That woman happened to be a very modest, chaste woman. since she was also a very prudent lady she requested someone to convey the following message to the man: Your matter will be decided only after you have offered for forty days the salah behind Sayyidina Umar, without even missing the first takbir. The person did so and after forty days he he found his state to be changed for the better. His love had turned to true love, not for the woman, but for Allah. When Sayyidina Umar was informed of this he said, ' Allah and his Messenger spoke the truth; prayer stops one from indecencies and evil. '
(Fatawa-e-Rahimiyyah 6/384)

In a Hadith, the Prophet peace be upon him said: ' If anyone worships Allah for forty days with sincerity, hen Allah causes springs of wisdom to gush from his heart.'
(Ruh-Ul-Bayaan, Ma'ariful Quran)

heres a good link too:
http://mygooddays.6te.net/tableeg.html

also
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=552984

oh and this a thread in another forum, its quite informative, give it a read if you have time:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread...=999&page=2

^ Jazak'Allah khair sis, will ahve a look over the articles.

*the link to sunniforum doesnt seem 2 be working.

Where are the Ijtemas? And when are they?

can someone go for Chillah without having gone Jamaat for 3 or 10 days?

yeah, of course you can.

oo right cool! Inshallah sometime soon;) and keeks- that Sunniforum link you posted it doesnt work so what the thread title? maybe we could search it instead it might just come up

Are there any Ijtima' in USA?

there are; there a going to be quite a few this summer, in London Markaz, Dewsbury Markaz, Scotland, France, i don't know about America i'll find out insha Allah. They have translators in Arabic and English etc too.

Sunni forum is actually a very integrated forum, with all kinds of muslims as members, therefore save your foul language for some other more deserving crap. If you have nothing to contribute, stay out.

Stripes; i didn't bookmark the thread so i don't know, inshAllah if i find out which topic it was i will post it.

who said anything about Sunniforum. I find it a very very useful forum dont post on it much because i find that learning from them members is the better than posting. (my bro made (but hes left:() it but thats not why i am saying it)
okies Jazaks Keeks!

whoa! your brother?! Stripes!!!

LOL yeh no one knows.
wanna know who it is? username- suhayl. he designed it and all and him and the first few decided it would be a good idea to create such a forum and Ta da!

wow. i can't believe you kept that hidden!