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Sebastian

According to this guy, many Americans agree with Rod Parsley who said that Islam is an anti-Christ religion. How true is this?
juan
Well dude looked like he stuck his foot in his mouth and was looking for a quick excuse. So I wouldn't go by him. Are we talking about the south or real America?
CBO
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faithprayerandhope
How is Islam the anti-christ when we believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) and love and respect him? Anyone who believes this is uneducated and ignorant, in my opinion.
heavensangelwv
I believe the comments made by Rod Parsley have been misunderstood. When he said that Islam is an anti-Christ religion, he did not mean that Islamic people simply do not believe that Christ existed. You do not believe that Christ is the Son of God who died to save you from your sins. The Bible says that anyone who is not for Christ is against Christ (Matthew 12:30). In that sense Islam is anti-Christ. It is not enough to merely believe He was a real person or just a great prophet. You have to confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead (Romans 10:9).
faithprayerandhope
QUOTE(heavensangelwv @ Jun 1 2008, 12:47 AM) *
I believe the comments made by Rod Parsley have been misunderstood. When he said that Islam is an anti-Christ religion, he did not mean that Islamic people simply do not believe that Christ existed. You do not believe that Christ is the Son of God who died to save you from your sins. The Bible says that anyone who is not for Christ is against Christ (Matthew 12:30). In that sense Islam is anti-Christ. It is not enough to merely believe He was a real person or just a great prophet. You have to confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead (Romans 10:9).


According to what you said, all religions are the anti-christ, not just Islam.
heavensangelwv
QUOTE(faithprayerandhope)
According to what you said, all religions are the anti-christ, not just Islam.


Not 'the antiChrist'.... that will be a person, not an entire religion.

But, yes... Any religion that does not recognize Christ as their Lord and Savior would be considered 'anti-Christ'.
i_zaki
QUOTE(heavensangelwv @ Jun 3 2008, 02:33 AM) *
QUOTE(faithprayerandhope)
According to what you said, all religions are the anti-christ, not just Islam.


Not 'the antiChrist'.... that will be a person, not an entire religion.

But, yes... Any religion that does not recognize Christ as their Lord and Savior would be considered 'anti-Christ'.




and christianity would be anti-Muhammed (pbuh)? smile.gif
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heavensangelwv
What exactly does (pbuh) mean??

America was not founded with the intent to destory Islam. It was founded with the intent to get away from religious persecution! England had a tendency to change its religion every time a new king or queen was coronated. His/Her subjects had to submit to the same relgious beliefs.


QUOTE(i_zaki)
and christianity would be anti-Muhammed (pbuh)?
Indeed... tongue.gif

But, that does not really bother me in the least because I believe the only way to the Father is through and by Jesus Christ. smile.gif
juan
QUOTE(heavensangelwv @ Jun 3 2008, 01:41 PM) *
What exactly does (pbuh) mean??

America was not founded with the intent to destory Islam. It was founded with the intent to get away from religious persecution! England had a tendency to change its religion every time a new king or queen was coronated. His/Her subjects had to submit to the same relgious beliefs.


QUOTE(i_zaki)
and christianity would be anti-Muhammed (pbuh)?
Indeed... tongue.gif

But, that does not really bother me in the least because I believe the only way to the Father is through and by Jesus Christ. smile.gif



PBUH= Peace be upon him
i_zaki
QUOTE(heavensangelwv @ Jun 4 2008, 03:41 AM) *
What exactly does (pbuh) mean??

America was not founded with the intent to destory Islam. It was founded with the intent to get away from religious persecution! England had a tendency to change its religion every time a new king or queen was coronated. His/Her subjects had to submit to the same relgious beliefs.


QUOTE(i_zaki)
and christianity would be anti-Muhammed (pbuh)?
Indeed... tongue.gif

But, that does not really bother me in the least because I believe the only way to the Father is through and by Jesus Christ. smile.gif



Okay~ So in your eyes we are anti-christ...however in my/our (fellow muslims) eyes we are just following the truth~which is christ being a messenger (and a good one) but NOT the son of god-bcz god is too gr8 to have a mortal son-that is what we believe smile.gif

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heavensangelwv
You are allowed to have your opinion.... That is why it is called free will. wink.gif

I not only believe that Jesus is the Son of God, but I also believe that Jesus is God.



John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
kellyjaz
Then i'm a Anti-christ.

go cry me a river.
Al-Din'As-Darfur
QUOTE(heavensangelwv @ Jun 3 2008, 12:41 PM) *
What exactly does (pbuh) mean??
Its a way muslims show respect to our prophets, ISA(SAWS) included...


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QUOTE(i_zaki)
and christianity would be anti-Muhammed (pbuh)?
Indeed... tongue.gif

But, that does not really bother me in the least because I believe the only way to the Father is through and by Jesus Christ. smile.gif



What happened to Christianity being about peace and love?
iamcrazy
Same could be said about Islam ^
poga
he spoke truth indeed ISLAM is anti christ
Because ISLAM real EESA and MUSA
BrightBroom
QUOTE(Chuck @ May 29 2008, 03:18 AM) *
According to this guy, many Americans agree with Rod Parsley who said that Islam is an anti-Christ religion. How true is this?

Yea, it is true especially in the hill billy redneck southern areas.

However, is Islam anti-Christ? No way! How can Islam be anti-Christ when we beleieve him to be one of the greatest messengers of God, we bellieve in his miraculous birth, we believe him to be messiah, and we believe that he gave life to the dead by God's permission and he healed the blinds and leppers with God's permission.

The only difference is that we do not believe in the divinity of Jesus. And, the truth is that he is not God. Because if he was, then he wouldve said it himself that he is God and that we should worship him. Even in the bible, all 66 books of bible and/or the 73 of the roman catholic, not even a single verse in which Jesus himself says I am God or worship me.

So, now who is closer of Jesus? Muslims? or Christians? Quite clearly, Islam and Muslims are closer to Jesus AS.gif, than these people to claim to be his followers.
BrightBroom
QUOTE(kellyjaz @ Jun 9 2008, 10:37 AM) *
Then i'm a Anti-christ.


No, sis. You're not. sl.gif
BrightBroom
QUOTE(heavensangelwv @ Jun 9 2008, 09:57 AM) *
John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


You quoted a verse that has been mistranslated from the original greek. The correct translation of the verse is as follows:

“In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was Divine”

This translation can be found in the "new world translation" of the Bible.
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14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


I am quite sure that you, just like all muslims and christians believe that whenever God wanted to create something, He would use his command to do so.

Now if we look up the term “the word”, it is “logos” which means the spoken word, command. If John wanted to write “Jesus”, why would he write “Logos” instead? There is no record of Jesus ever being addressed as “Logos” by any one in the New Testament.

kellyjaz
QUOTE(BrightBroom @ Jun 10 2008, 04:29 PM) *
QUOTE(kellyjaz @ Jun 9 2008, 10:37 AM) *
Then i'm a Anti-christ.


No, sis. You're not. sl.gif



May Allah forgive me for saying that.
BrightBroom
QUOTE(kellyjaz @ Jun 10 2008, 06:48 PM) *
May Allah forgive me for saying that.


your comment was obvioulsy full of sarcasm. And I just wanted to say hi to you, so i replied to your comment.

and yea, may Allah forgive us all, for the intentional and unintentional shortcomings of ours. ameen.
kellyjaz
BrightBroom, I miss you picking on me!

*sniff*

and Ameen Ameen.
poga
QUOTE(Chuck @ May 29 2008, 01:18 AM) *

According to this guy, many Americans agree with Rod Parsley who said that Islam is an anti-Christ religion. How true is this?



Yes for sure ISLAM is only to believe in religion of ALLAH
Not Christianity or muslimity but just Islamic community
Ovi
If you mean anti-christ, as in "The Anti-Christ", that's not possible. Because it's supposed to be one person, not a whole religious group. Muslims believe in the Anti-Christ as well, but with a different name, and different prophecies, I think. We call him Dajjal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dajjal). We even believe in Jesus's second coming.

If you mean anti-christ as in those who reject Christ as God, then yes we are anti-christ.

But, let's not kid ourselves. If you are a fan of English grammar, Anti-Christ will sound like "against Christ" to you. Which we are not. We hold him in high regards. Rod Parsley was not "misunderstood". These are comment made intentionally in order to provoke anti-Islamic propaganda. Parsley was quoted as stating that he "do[es] not believe that our country can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed" and that Muhammad is "the mouthpiece of a conspiracy of spiritual evil." Period.

But let's not care what he says and throw useless Fatwas against him. That helps no-one. He is rejected by most Americans, I am sure. McCain rejected his endorsement, so it's no big of a deal anyway.

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Yes for sure ISLAM is only to believe in religion of ALLAH
Not Christianity or muslimity but just Islamic community


Muslimity? tongue.gif

Also, can you rephrase that? thx
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