Salaamun 'alaa man ittaba'al hudaa; Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem;
Firstly, I should say that anything I mention, is not aimed at reviling or degrading the Prophet’s of Allaah, a’udhubillaah. Anything which may seem that way is completely unintentionally. Anything I say will not make a difference to their status anyway. I know this topic is somethign better avoided in the first place, but it must be discussed to refute the deviants ideologies which stem from it.
Akhi Moostee, I have not clarified my opinion; I have just merely asked for your opinion on the above quotes.
The issue at hand is the concept of infallibility and how this relates to the Prophet’s (‘alayhimus salaam) of Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) and in particular, the greatest of them all, our beloved Muhammad (salawaatullaahi wa salaamuhu ‘alayh).
It is important that we know exactly what we are discussing.
The dictionary definition of ‘infallible’:
• adjective 1 incapable of making mistakes or being wrong. 2 never failing; always effective.
— DERIVATIVES infallibility noun infallibly adverb.
Source: Compact Oxford English Dictionary
From a Shee’ah point of view:
Shaykh Muhamad Riza Muzaffar, a famous and eminent scholar of the first half of this century writes,
“We [Shias] believe that all Prophets are infallible… Infallibility means purity from all sins, both major and minor ones, and from mistakes and forgetfulness.”
Source: Al-Muzzafar, The Faith of Shia Islam, p. 21)
In countless ayaat of the Qur'aan, Allaah reiterates over and over again that the Messengers whom have been sent to mankind were nothing but men of revelation; they were not angels, not super beings but men just like you and me."Nor did We send before thee (as apostles) any but men, whom we did inspire..."
[12:109]"And before thee also the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration..."
"Not an apostle did We send before thee without this inspiration sent by Us to him..." [21:25]
"And We never sent before you any of the Messengers, but verily, they ate food and walked in the markets..."
[25:20]"Say: "Glorified be my Lord! Am I anything but a man, sent as a Messenger''..."
the prophet was the greatest mujtahid and so when he made decisions prior to a quranic verse being revealed - how can this be a sin?
Nowhere did I say it was a sin!
Tell me, using logic, which we all love; if a person is CORRECTED, does this not mean he committed a MISTAKE, since correction only occurs of that which is not correct (i.e. mistakes) ?
you have completely miunderstood the concept of prophethood by believing allah is censuring the prophet in the quran. prohibiting what is not prohibited for yourself is not a sin and if you regard it a sin in light of the verse - how can the pophet have committed a sin which did not yet exist?
Again, where did I say it was a sin?
Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) rebukes the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) for his mistake of prohibiting the halaal, in the form of a question. And He (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) mentions He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
the same would apply to the issue of the captives.
Again, bearing in mind the definition of “infallible; the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) made a mistake in his ijtihaad, and so was corrected
by Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta'aala).
with regard to the hadith about pollinating the dates - why would the prophet give insructions on a worldly issue about which he was neither asked his opinion nor did he have any knowledge over the issue. the hadith is insulting the prophet by saying he gave advice which he was not even asked about which turned out false.
This is just pure following of shahawaat. I mean, you have not even attempted to refute the hadeeth based on its strength in authenticity. It doesnt matter if its saheeh or not, as long as it doesnt fit your "wishes" then it is automatically false ?
the quran talks about obeying the prophet and never gives any clause on only obeying with regard to revelation.
33:6 says the prophet has more authority over us than we have over ourselves. that means if i am praying my salat and the prophet orders me to break it - i must break it.
Yes, and your point is akhi? Is anyone saying NOT to obey the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) ?
I believe the Prophet's of Allaah were infallible and do not make mistakes when it comes to conveying the message. They did not forget anything that Allaah revelaed to them, except for things that were abrogated."With regard to worldly matters…with regard to agriculture, medicine, carpentry, etc., he was like all other people. Allah did not tell us that he was sent to us as a businessman or a farmer or a carpenter or a doctor. His mistakes in these fields are quite natural and do not impact on his Message at all."
Wallaahu ta'aala a'lam.