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imissyou
Hello community,


The biggest question i have, and i will print this out to shove in my dads face is.


Are Piercings Restricted in Islam?


I use to go to a Islamic school before i left IFS, (Islamic foundation School)
and i thought anything that harms your body is haraam, piercings dont harm your body ii know tattoos do, and besides im going to take off my piercings sooner or late, but my ear wont close up even if i took it out cuz i stretched them their 1"inch now, i can fit big glow sticks in my ears WOOOO rave Party,

Please tell me.
JJ
I had a nose piercing but i took it out becoz i got bored of it. My mum didn't want me to get it done.
Its something you really want but things that you want don't last long.Im going to get it done again, maybe when i get married, but i went thru all that with my mum and then i took it out myself when it kept fallin out at night. Now, i just think why didn't i keep the proper thing in so it wouldn't heal so fast, as for your question of it being haram. unsure.gif
Well culturally its allowed, my grandma has it done in two places and my great grandma in three!
Its like listening to music if u want to you do, but when you get fed up of it you just turn it off, or take the piercing out.
Its just a craze that you go thru cuz u think it would look cool espech if u hang around with emos by the looks of it you do(i used to but now i don't)*
So it looks cool everyone tells u 'wow it looks so good!' then after a month noone tells you it anymore and you take the thing out becoz you've had enough of it.
Thats what happened with me, now i want an eyebrow piercin but that's too crazy! and im scared ill take that one out too. dry.gif
ohmy.gif I just googled it apparantley your not allowed to have a nose piercing but you're allowed to have an ear piercing now which sheik said that??! Well i think its the same the person who said that reasoned that your deforming Allah's creation by piercing your nose but the same can be said for the ears. huh.gif
However! sleep.gif
Ear piercing for males isn't allowed cuz its for the females thats what it says here;
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...01110244AAkCrtj
Soz dude!
imissyou
hahaa, i have 4 piercings, my brother in th eother hand, has.


1setpum(bull ring)

snake bites ( 2 lip rings)

angel bites (lips rings on upper lip like me)

both 1inch ears,

cartalidge

8 ppiercings lul


myspace him!

www.myspace.com/headshot14

hes 16 im 17.
imissyou
>:)
wonderer
Salaaam..

well well.. piercing HURTS! sad.gif
The thought of it makes me shiver.. and don't tell me it doesn't hurt!! coz I know it does ooooauch! I still wana try it tho biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway.. the only haram part in piercing is when you do it wanting to look like a woman. In this case it'll be Haram.. coz as you know Islam wants men to stay men and wants women to stay women without confusing a gender with another..

about your dad.. it's not like he can do anything abt it.. sooo, he'll get used to it.. just don't go all crazy and pierce the rest of ur body. What's done is done now..

ok about Tattoos.. let me shock you.. it's HALA for some Shia scholars biggrin.gif
they have some conditions like don't tattoo Allah's names.. coz u'll go to the bathroom and that won't be respectful. But other than that it's hala

JJ.. about nose piercing.. it's not that hala..
Q: I have a question about piercing. Is Muslim woman allowed to have a nose-piercing?
A: In itself, there is no objection to it. However, if it is considered as an adornment, it should be covered in front of non-mahrams.
http://www.islam-pure.de/imam/fatwas/fatwas07.htm

~wonderer
wonderer
WOW.. that's pirecing in a lot of places!!
no wonder ur dad is pissed!!
JJ
QUOTE(wonderer @ Jan 21 2009, 12:10 AM) *
Salaaam..

well well.. piercing HURTS! sad.gif
The thought of it makes me shiver.. and don't tell me it doesn't hurt!! coz I know it does ooooauch! I still wana try it tho biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway.. the only haram part in piercing is when you do it wanting to look like a woman. In this case it'll be Haram.. coz as you know Islam wants men to stay men and wants women to stay women without confusing a gender with another..

about your dad.. it's not like he can do anything abt it.. sooo, he'll get used to it.. just don't go all crazy and pierce the rest of ur body. What's done is done now..

ok about Tattoos.. let me shock you.. it's HALA for some Shia scholars biggrin.gif
they have some conditions like don't tattoo Allah's names.. coz u'll go to the bathroom and that won't be respectful. But other than that it's hala

JJ.. about nose piercing.. it's not that hala..
Q: I have a question about piercing. Is Muslim woman allowed to have a nose-piercing?
A: In itself, there is no objection to it. However, if it is considered as an adornment, it should be covered in front of non-mahrams.
http://www.islam-pure.de/imam/fatwas/fatwas07.htm

~wonderer


Thanks wonderer, i got my source from the net so don't know if i can trust it. Tatoos halal! Really? emo12001.gif
Well i could say my nose piercing is not considered as an adornment and my ear piercing is. tongue.gif
imissyou
wait tell me wonder, why r tatoos halal? cuz omg il do my own tatoo my self right now igot everything ready, toothbrush- with radio battery-with piercing needle, and indian ink

i want a pack of new ports cigarettes tatted on my shoulder.
Lucky Strike
I used to have my ear pierced, but elders told me im imitating kusreh (cross dressers) so i took it out. Get henna tattoos, they are temporary. Permanent are haraam. Also you cannot draw pictures of animals / humans.
JJ
laugh.gif Heard that one before. But for this dude that had an eyebrow piercing, my mate kept on sayin he was a kusra dry.gif
Lucky Strike
Hahaha! I remember i wanted to get my eyebrow pierced. Until i came to my senses! wink.gif
imissyou
lucky strikes are my fav cigerates, non filter taste like heaven expensive but worth it,
wonderer
ummmmm... loool.. u r sunni.. so u better follow ur path biggrin.gif
yah some only some said it's halal.. but don't do it! now!
GOSH!! I was laughing so hard when I read ur post.. loool..
what abt u wait till u r like 18 or 20??
and the Henah tattoo r cool smile.gif for now..
u can get that very dark henah kind.. it's sooo black! I tried it once and it looked AMAZING!!!

plus I bet u'll change ur mind soon.. so wait biggrin.gif.. and ur dad would shoot u if he sees it on u!!

JJ.. I guess it's considered adornment lool.. coz guys will look and they'll be like that nose piercing is HOT.. sooo it is.. and not only based on that source.. it's a ganeral rule.. everything u do and it's in the places where u not cover and it's adornment shouldn't be there.. it's up 2 u anyway biggrin.gif

LS some Shia scholoras approve it.. not all of them tho.. it depends on who u follow..
Sid Sistany def approve it.. am not sure abt Sid Khminei tho..

~ wonderer
JJ
QUOTE(wonderer @ Jan 22 2009, 11:33 AM) *
JJ.. I guess it's considered adornment lool.. coz guys will look and they'll be like that nose piercing is HOT.. sooo it is.. and not only based on that source.. it's a ganeral rule.. everything u do and it's in the places where u not cover and it's adornment shouldn't be there.. it's up 2 u anyway biggrin.gif

LS some Shia scholoras approve it.. not all of them tho.. it depends on who u follow..
Sid Sistany def approve it.. am not sure abt Sid Khminei tho..

~ wonderer


blink.gif I see your point clearly wonderer which is why i took it out. sleep.gif

Thanks for lettin me know anyways just clears up ma head. wacko.gif
JJ
QUOTE(wonderer @ Jan 22 2009, 11:33 AM) *
ummmmm... loool.. u r sunni.. so u better follow ur path biggrin.gif
yah some only some said it's halal.. but don't do it! now!
GOSH!! I was laughing so hard when I read ur post.. loool..
what abt u wait till u r like 18 or 20??
and the Henah tattoo r cool smile.gif for now..
u can get that very dark henah kind.. it's sooo black! I tried it once and it looked AMAZING!!!



LOL truee, but were still Muslims just twisting the ways of doing stuff, we just need to get it right with the Quran and sunnah and all.
18 or 20...yehh
henna tatoos they are cool (the ones that don't stink!) happy.gif
iamcrazy
Tattoos allowed? O.o
Males piercing?

Teh Ahlul Sunnnah dont allow these for those getting confused
JJ
Please can you explain because i AM confused.
I don't know what to do?

-JJ
JJ
Wonderer smile.gif :Aren't tatoos like hot in the same way nose piercings are??

*So if shias allow tatoos they should allow nose and ear piercings too happy.gif
Right? Yup. angel.png
iamcrazy
For men? Yes I think so, majority?
QUOTE
LS some Shia scholoras approve it.. not all of them tho.. it depends on who u follow..
Sid Sistany def approve it.. am not sure abt Sid Khminei tho..



Yeah I guess some scholars do and others dont..
JJ
Why do people listen to scholars? We need the Quran and Sunnah to guide us properly, no?...
So many different scholars, saying soo many different things. wacko.gif
Human beings aren't perfect, but the Quran is smile.gif
Can we get sources from the Quran and show the scholars who's the boss?
happy.gif
wonderer
Hey JJ
u r right tattoos are HOT! Lool
and all the things you mentioned r allowed.. BUT, you'll have to cover them up!
It'll be hard to cover the nose piercing lool.. unless you live in Saudi heehehe

y scholars? Good question JJ.. so let me tell you why...

there are many shiks and scholars, but the ones that we follow are chosen based on very specific criteria, and we call them “marjea”. I'm not sure how many we have, but I'm pretty sure we have around 20 or something. I'm sure of only 7 biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
you'll have to chose one of the “majeas” and follow him in everything.. it's not like you follow whatever u like from each.. no you choose one and stick to his answers.. when he dies it's a different story..
the most popular two are Sayad Sistani, and that's his site: www.sistani.org
and Sayad Khamnei, and that's his site: leader.ir

ok, back to your question of y we choose them. Ok their job is to interpret and explain what's their in Quran and Hadith because as you know some things aren't that clear of unknowledgeable people like us. So, they do the hard job for us, and they get all the rules about the new stuff like tattoos, and other things that weren't directly mentioned..

I think having merjea is soo cool! Lool.. they get all the info I want..

~wonderer
Lucky Strike
I was thinking of getting the crescent moon and star on my shoulder (up to the neck) but i think it just makes a person look cheap. Allah tala has given me beautiful skin (Alhamdulilah), why take it for granted? You people should think about that.
JJ
Yeah hes given you a body too so you should quit the cigs Lucky strikes smile.gif

Why damage it? huh.gif
You must be taking it for granted tut tut.
Looks cheap doesn't it smile.gif

-JJ
Lucky Strike
lol I never said smoking was halal! smile.gif
wonderer
well u r not goin to tattoo all ur body.. jut a part of it.. and u can get an artist to do for you to look ver artistic and not cheap.. JJ >>smoking.. who said anything abt smoking looool!!
JJ
Oh Lucky stripes will tell you smile.gif
Right Lucky?
Don't think your so lucky when you die from all those cigs.
Religious much?
rolleyes.gif
juan
QUOTE(Lucky Strike @ Jan 24 2009, 08:08 AM) *
I was thinking of getting the crescent moon and star on my shoulder (up to the neck) but i think it just makes a person look cheap. Allah tala has given me beautiful skin (Alhamdulilah), why take it for granted? You people should think about that.


Yes so then why ruin it with tattoos? Why cover it up with ink?
Silly Billy
Can we please avoid the personal attacks and keep on topic. Thankyou.
juan
Ok now we have gotten way off subject here. This isn't really a debate section.
All Shia/Sunni debates have their own proper sections.


This is not the correct forum. I thought I was lost. I came into here and saw Shia vs Sunni bickering in the UNITED ISLAMIC CORNER. So we shall not talk bad about others and their Islamic views.
LS that means we wont tolerate the ways you have come about attacking the Shia faith.

wonderer please ignore such comments. Thank you for showing great character and not stooping down levels and jeopardizing your morals.


Now we will stay on subject. This member wants some help with a question. He also asked for proof. I have not witnessed much of this proof being given.

Thanks
imissyou
so 1 question... yes or no , are permanent tattoos haram. n i jjust bought a pack of non filter heaven cigs, luckyy strikes:)
JJ
My friend has that earing in she says it kills and hers is tiny compared to yours!

How do you do it? doesn't it hurt?

Yeah i agree with Lucky for once on dudes its probably Haram. Soz!
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towbah247
I never agreed with the logic that piercings and dying hair are defroming the body even though i can understand why some people may say so. Piercings can heal themselvs and aren't permenant and you would know if you see a guy walking down the street that purple isn't his natural hair color. But i guess it all depends on you and your level of comfort. If you feel like you are doin something wrong just dnt do it.
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