QUOTE(from the wind @ Jul 9 2009, 11:24 AM)
QUOTE(Matamoros @ Jul 9 2009, 12:58 PM)
fromthewind ~ The Jesuit order is just a part of the Catholic Church, its founder was Saint Ignatius of Loyola
But is it not true that Jesuits abstain from marriage, both men and women? Usually when someone speaks of the Jesuits they speak of an order with more power than the traditional Catholic Church. Which brings up another question:
What's the deal with the "black pope"?
I don't mean to take your focus off of our other discussion. But, when people talk about the Jesuit order they usually are mentioning a group with more power than the traditional Catholic Church.
Black pope? I am not sure. There have been many popes in the history of the Catholic Church that certainly had dark skin though. The Middle East and Africa was a stronghold of Catholicism until the advent of Islam.
Those who enter into the Jesuit order (or any other Catholic order, for example the Dominicans or Cistercians) usually take a vow of chastity (celibacy), poverty, and obedience. Its not that big of a deal. The Jesuit order is now nonexistent, as all modern men claiming to be Jesuits are a outrageous heretics and a disgrace to St. Ignatius.
Its pretty complicated, but I can go into finer detail if you want (orders, third orders, monks and nuns, consecrated religious, priests, bishops, patriarchs, popes, etc)